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Another promise was that we’d be able to basically have access to every tv show or film, and that evaporated very quickly when all the studios decided they wanted to gatekeep everything so they could charge even more for it, and then now we have them disappearing so many things that have been out there just because they don’t want to pay royalties to anyone involved.

That is one part of it. The studios believed that if they did the distribution they'd be able to have a larger slice of the pie. This isn't working as well as they thought it would in many cases (Disney is likely the exception if there is one with a very large historical catalog and several profitable franchisees) but didn't realize the corresponding infrastructure and (customer) support costs that would incur reducing the amount that they make.

Furthermore, the residuals (things that are currently at stake in striking) are based on "having it available" even if no one is watching it. This means that studios (and Netflix and Amazon) are strongly incentivized to remove shows that aren't getting watched sufficiently for the draw of having them there because they're paying residuals no matter if its being watched or not.

Having a streaming catalog of 10,000 shows (Netflix has about 13,000 world wide by some accounts with about 5000 available in the US) would mean they're paying small amounts to everyone even if they're not getting watched. If the company (e.g. studio) isn't set up around the infrastructure and support needed for streaming, this can easily mean that those small amounts can become more than the amount that the company is making off of streaming.

Ever notice how Amazon Prime Video rotates in lots of B movies that are available for a few weeks and then disappear again? This is to get people to watch them but minimize paying residuals for having a bunch of movies and TV series that no one watches otherwise.

With the combination of race to the cheapest for pricing (and sharing of accounts), and infrastructure / operational costs it is quite possible to be in the situation where studios are losing money on hosting shows and at the same time paying actors and writers far less than is fair... and the easiest solution that studios have to resolve this is to aggressively pull shows.

https://text.npr.org/2023/03/06/1161382179/hbo-max-disappearing-shows-series-streaming-warner (full site for a 26 minute audio version)

Going back to cable isn’t the answer. It’s a failed model and needs to die.

Defined narrowly enough, yes, that old model is dead.

But more broadly, as an economic matter there will always be a business model for having a basket of content, with some portion of historical content (classic movies and tv shows from decades past) on demand, some ongoing/current on-demand content (last week's episode of some scripted show), and live broadcast (sporting events happening right now). Build up enough of a catalog, charge a single price to subscribers for access to that content, and people will pay for the entire bundle. And because each subscriber is interested in a different portion of that bundle, the mass of subscribers essentially cross-subsidizes the fat tail of niche content: I don't mind paying for your niche if it means my niche gets to survive.

The technological and cultural changes have deemphasized the importance of cable's live delivery mechanism of 100+ "channels" each with programming on a specific schedule, but the core business model still will be there: subscribe to content and you can get some combination of live channels and a catalog of on-demand content.

The content owners, through either carriage fees with the cable/IPTV providers, or through the streaming services, or everything in between, are trying to jack up the price to see what the market will bear for those bundles. They might miscalculate to the point where the subscriber count drops so much that their overall revenue decreases even with a higher revenue per subscriber (and I actually think this is about to happen). And then instead of a market equilibrium where almost everyone pays a little bit to where there's a huge bundle of content available, the little niche interests just can't get a subscriber base and aren't made available, even if the content is already made.

And if you need convenience, there are pirate streamers. You pay a monthly fee and get every program

But I like TV.

The reason I buy games is because pirating them is more trouble than just paying for them.

Now with video streaming, the value add was that I didn't even need to have to go search for something, it was just all there for a small fee.

Now for that fee, I still have to search for stuff (klwhich streaming service is it on in the first place), juggle subscriptions, and also, in some cases, have to watch ads. Why would I do that when the old ways of the sea are more convenient again?

Uh, no? Netflix used to have everything good. You could drop your $150/mo cable sub and get $10/mo Netflix and never look back.

Nah, Netflix used to have nearly everything, and then it got split into like a dozen different services.

It's referring to cable packages. Oh you want to be able to watch FX shows? Then get the blue-tier package to add 30 random channels, 28 of which you don't want for another $30 on top of the base price! Oh you want AMC too? Then get the green tier for another $45 as well that also has 35 channels you don't want. Sorry, we don't have a package with both FX and AMC, you'll need to get the blue AND green packages on top of the $60 base subscription. Sorry, you can't just choose what channels you want.

Circa 2011 it'd just be like Netflix and/or Hulu were all you need to get most of the content since they had deals with the different studios. Now they're all segmenting off onto their own.

Heya @[email protected] , can you add some block-quoting to your summary like the below:

That should make it clearer that you're copying/quoting information from another source and not just a spoiler comment. Maybe add the page source at the end of the spoiler too, or at least site name.