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Looking for both philosophical and real world examples including situation-specific ones like one field of study that it would versus another where it wouldn't. Idk I'm bored as shit and wanna discuss something.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 months ago

Idk why it wouldn't be considered cheating? If it violates the conditions of the exam process, then it would be cheating. I don't see how that would change if the medium changed.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Exactly.

Like, maybe OP is thinking bodily autonomy would protect you? Sure, I don't think anyone can stop you from doing this, but they can still flunk you out of the exam if you do, or at least demand you cover them. In the same vein, Starbucks doesn't hire people with face tattoos.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

When I was in high school, I wrote a TI-86 program in BASIC to do geography/physics formulae. Like β€œfind the volume of a cube” and then it would ask you for the variables and solve for whichever one was missing.

My teachers found out and actually ruled it not cheating because I wrote the program myself and hadn’t shared it with everyone. (I eventually became a computer programmer so they were probably right.)

So, I’d say by that precedent, as long as you gave yourself the tattoo and learned a new trade, it’s fine. But looking at a friend’s tattoo would be cheating.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I think the difference here is being able to program a solver for formulae implies an understanding of the formulae being solved, specifically the ones the exam tests for. I'm not sure your teachers would have given you credit for tattooing some formula on your chest.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

I wrote programs to solve statistics questions on my calculator, which was apparently fine at in class but not allowed for exams

The invigilators would go around checking your calculator had been cleared and reset before the exam.

So i wrote a program that replicated the reset screen. Totally worked. Didn't use my stats program in the exam anyway.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I programmed my TI-83 with some basic maths programs but we all had to wipe the memory before exams. I still miss the tetris game i had on that thing :(

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It would be cheating unless you didn't know they would become answers to a test in the future.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is the most banger tattoo though. Random answers to a test that could potentially exist in the future.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

And the exam is life. The tattoo? 42

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

Practically they would probably make you cover the tattoo up to take the exam.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Yes, don't do it it's pretty dumb.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I think any math teacher who sees you tattooed a formula on yourself and doesn't let you look at it is an absolute dickhead. (Assuming the dickhead won't allow formula sheets)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They can't really make the argument that you won't have the formula to reference in the future when you need it...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but more importantly, shortsighted unless you do not have to take any exams in the future.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Just tattoo a 3x5 index card over it first.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I had a classmate who had the identity matrix tattooed on his wrist. Proctors made him wear a bandage over it. There was also a t-shirt made by the math facility with a bunch of equations that was banned from exams.

I don't think either would actually be of real help (these were for second year math courses) but the profs considered it a matter of principal.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

See this was kinda at the core of the question (but I wasn't really able to articulate it at the time). What if someone was just a huge enough nerd that they were already walking around with some kind of reference sheet tattooed on?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If the test's purpose is to prove you have retained knowledge, wouldn't a tattoo be a permanent retention of that knowledge?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

This is what I'm saying. Shit ain't going anywhere now bitches!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Yes, but I think you’d gain respect points and thus pass

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Lol, what did the teenagers do this time?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

On your body? Yes. On your friend's body? Probably. On your teacher? Maybe not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Not unless I fucked the tattooist.

Rimshot.