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I dont use read reciepts on WhatsApp. I keep it off. So I cannot see if a person has read my message or the sender of a message cannot see Ihave read their message. Status update views are also hidden.

Other messaging apps also have this feature. I personally don't like it. Do you?

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fuck no. I prefer my privacy and I also don't want people getting offended if I read something but don't feel like responding to it immediately. I would also turn off the three little dots that say I'm typing if I could.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I legit hate the typing dots, especially since uasualy if i dont respond im busy or thinking of a reply... and the three dots makes it feel like theres an expectation to reply right then. Also i have a friend that gets offended/internalizes it (yes they have some issues ha) which makes me just not open them till very late in the day

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Claiming to have missed a message is ~1/4 of all the messages I send. I'm not about to provide proof that I'm lying.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

We do know anyways that you're lying because the phone is always in your pocket. The lying makes you just look bad. But that's on you.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes I do, I don't mind that people see that I read their message and I like to see when others read mine. But if someone ever tells me I should have reacted because I've read it, it's their fault.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

educate people!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"Read reciepts ruin friendships."

I dont remember where I read that quote, but I agree with it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

That's sad though. Sometimes I don't feel like replying to my friends, I know it's the same for them. If they saw my message and haven't replied, I assume they'll reply later or give them a bit more time before reminding them.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

I have them on, I think it’s quite annoying if there’s something urgent and you can’t tell if the text got read or not.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Always on, why would I hide if I read the message? I also reply back, which is an uncommon skill it seams.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There shouldn't be an expectation to always be "on". I'll reply to people, but sometimes it might a few days or a week later.

But then I'm old enough to have had pen pals and remember conversations that would go on for years with weeks or months inbetween each exchange.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

True, but people lost this because of the constant media input. They won't reply in a day or a week, they completely forget to do it at all. Also sometimes not replying is totally fine, it's more of a general rule. I know myself that I sometimes send stuff where there's no response required. But when I ask if they have time to hang out and they don't reply, even if it's just to not insult me, that's stupid.

People should say if they have time or not. My best buddy only started to say "no" once I told him I'm totally fine with it. Somehow people lack confidence these days...I don't know. I'm not that old but people used to be more willing to just decline instead of ghosting. Not showing you've read a message by blocking the recipe arrows, is even worse and I kick people like that out of my friend list. I see it as duty to reply friends and people that care about me, so I expect that from other people as well.

My personal conclusion is, that too many people have too many fake friends and secretly they feel lonely because of the world they've build themselves. A world of no commitment and no responsibility. It's like people who always lie, so they assume everyone else is constantly lying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This sounds like you have really unhealthy friendships with poor communication. Sure, an acknowledgement of your invitation at the very least is respectful, but I also would never expect any of the people I love to feel an obligation to be tied to their phone or to have to speak to me if in that moment they don't want to. People have lives that don't revolve around me, and I know that doesn't mean that they care about me any less.

Maybe their anxiety is playing up that week? Maybe they're depressed? Maybe they're really busy? None of these things are an insult to me, and if you care about each other then you'll make time at some point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Na, your interpret too much into that. I just didn't feel like writing even more text. I don't expect people to be tied to their phone, there's a clear difference. I don't expect people to care as much as I do either.

But if people find zero time talking to you, you still think they care about you? That's pretty naive.

The only unhealthy about that is sticking to people like that. Wasting energy for fake friends is a waste of time. But that's also more of a German cultural thing and I dislike that we become more American where this is also taken way less seriously. Being a friend also means acting like one. Yes everyone has their reason why they might not have time or feel like talking, yet friends means also responsibility, else it's not a friend and just a buddy, replaceable, unimportant, unloyal, like the 1000 people they have in their Facebook list.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

If people have zero time to talk to you then they're not a friend, no, but I'm talking about expecting instant replies. I very much agree with you about not giving time to fake friends, and that's what I was referring to about unhealthy friendships in my previous comment.

I think the majority of interactions with my friends just happen in person so most conversations aren't taking place on my phone, apart from those that live far away. And I have like 200 friends on Facebook because I made a new account and only added people I care about (which I highly recommend for any social media!).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

I don't like read receipts, but I do like delivery notifications.

Some people have really unrealistic expectations about how fast others should respond to a message.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I personally like to keep it on. Most of my messaging is with family and friends and it's good to know if someone read or hasn't read my message.

Especially if things are time critical. Picking someone up? Asking if they need anything from the supermarket? If I see that they read the message I know that they are going to reply in a moment. If they didn't even read the message I won't have to wait around / can guess that they are currently in the car or wherever.

Sometimes you also have a spotty connection, so the received + read receipt can tell you if they actually got your message.

In general if someone sends me a message and I read it.. I'm going to fucking reply to it (if I'm not super busy, and even then I might send a quick message back). I seriously don't get people who just leave things on read and then forget about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

If its time sensitive why not just call?

For me: text = non urgent Calls/vm = urgent

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

nope has been off for me in as long as I can think

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I love it, it tells me either they haven't viewed it, so no need to remind them or need to call them if it's a bit more urgent. If they saw it and didn't reply, depending on timing and situation, I assume/know that either they're too busy right now, working on something before replying or forgot and need a reminder.

Super useful!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

As long as the app allows me to preview the message without opening it, I'm fine with turning on read receipts.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

No, I consider read receipts and typing indicators privacy violations. If I could specifically turn it on for my family and very close friends maybe, but it's no one else's business.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I have them off, but if something comes in that I should respond to I do send some sort of response back (errands, plans, etc.) I just don't like feeling I get that I should respond now to something just because I saw it and now the person on the other end knows that I saw it, and are now wondering why I haven't sent something back yet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

No. You are not entitled to an instant response.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I use them.

Text communication is so hard in the first place. I’ll take any tool I can get to make it smoother.

My model for privacy is: I want to keep corpos out of my business, so that I can feel comfy sharing more with the people I care about.

If I’m treating my friends like a threat, what’s the point? Might as well not be the real me anywhere, anytime then. At which point, who cares about privacy when it’s not even β€œyou” that you’re keeping private?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I have read receipts on with my wife, but no one else. Too much pressure, especially for someone like me who habitually clears notifications even if I haven’t addressed anything

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I would like to see a feature that allows me to enable it for specific contacts/conversations and disable for the rest. It's useful if there is something that I need to tell someone that's time sensitive but not urgent enough for me to call them, but I don't want everyone to be able to know if I have read a message or not.

So for family and close friends I would like to enable that feature, but for anyone else I would like it to be disabled.

Since this is all or nothing right now, I keep it disabled for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wait, I always thought turning them on turns them on for you and the other person still has to turn it on for themselves to see it. Like even if you leave it off, they can still see if you've read theirs if they have it on. Am I misunderstanding this setting?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

In order for this feature to be enabled with both participants of the conversation. What I mean is that I want it to be disabled for my conversation with everyone with the exception of specific people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I don't need to know if message was read so i disable it for my own privacy.

Besides, I think they're pointless in my case. I usually read the message in the notification and reply or dismiss it without opening the app, and the apps usually don't record these interactions as "read".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I have them off by default, but telegram allows exceptions so I use that for people close to me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Depends on the audience, close friends on.

Work / social stalkers - off

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I just leave it on because I have no issues with it, if I am ghosting someone I just don't open that chat. The online stuff however I do turn off.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah, I want those tax returns.