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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hard pass for me. I get where they are coming from - no buttons, next stage will be wireless charging only, means it's a fully enclosed system with zero ingress for water or dirt, so that's kind of neat.

But personally I need at least a power button and volume up/down. And I love the slider for different sound profiles on OnePlus phones.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Mute slider is such fucking nice feature... How is it not standard?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Because most people have their phone on vibrate 100% of the time. I had a OnePlus and my slider got stuck. Couldn't change the setting for 2 years but as it was stuck in vibrate, it didn't matter anyway.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Having owned 3 OnePlus phones, I never liked that feature.

Android 5 introduced a "do not disturb" mode, which OnePlus's software just... removes, in favor of the toggle. Hence I have constantly used workarounds or custom ROMs to avoid that toggle altogether.

This is why I prefer DND/software toggle:

  • Automatic silence at night
  • If you know you need to have it silent for X hours, you can set a timer
  • Location automation, especially LineageOS's, but I believe there is some form in AOSP (or Pixel) now too.

I've also tried using the switch for something else, like flashlight, but sometimes ended up activating it by accident, draining the battery.

So now I just have the switch doing nothing at all.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

How this is a desiderable feature? I always use the volume buttons for reject calls, shoot photos (although on my latest MIUI phone the volume button didn't shoot a photo but set the auto timer), quickly adjust volume during a call or media playback.

Same for the power button, even if I set double tap to wake and double tap (on empty part of launcher) to standby, the power button is faster.

I'd even want more buttons. I want an extra programmable button(s) like the iphone and I also want a mute slider that can be programmed as rotation lock

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Some people prefer the clean look, I guess. I prefer having a physical fingerprint reader too; it's fucking annoying how so many phones have switched to those awkwardly placed under-display ones.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

I also have a fingerprint reader in the screen but I feel like the one on the back of my Redmi 5 Plus was more reliable. It's not a dealbreaker tho.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yea I miss the hardware fingerprint reader that was on my last one. The under screen reader is much slower and less reliable.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Goofy.
How do you even enter recovery on that? Shake during boot?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This needs some simple hardware trigger, that can be queried by bootloader, but specific wnough so it won't trigger in your pocket. If buttons are unavailable, I can propose several idead:

  • Cover the proximity sensor 10 times per second. Requires good motor skills.
  • Shine separated red, green, and blue lasers into three of the phone cameras. You'll need a box with three different-colored LEDs to cover cameras module.
  • There is a low-speed data channel in wireless chargers. Just add the button to the charger instead of the phone.
  • Put your phone at exactly 2.5G of acceleration. Accelerometer is easy to use even from the bootloader, however you will need to put your phone in a centrifuge and reboot it while it's rotating.
  • An option 'Reboot into recovery' in system settings, duh. Won't help if your ROM fails to boot.
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Eh, a "reset hole" like calculators and toys have would suffice, as the phone already needs one for the SIM slot.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I guess that phone would use eSim, so no slot is needed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

What's the point of removing the buttons if you still have holes for the speakers, mic and charging port. Unless they are planning to remove those too it seems kinda pointless.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

You can already charge wirelessly. As for the speakers, Samsung has an OLED TV that vibrates the glass of the screen to produce sound, maybe something similar would be possible on a phone too. Don't know if something similar would be possible for the mic.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't want a phone like that but it would be cool to see if it's possible.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

It mentioned in the article that Meizu already has a phone with capacitive pads instead of buttons, screen-based speaker, 18w wireless charging and no USB port.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

There was also a phone with that vibrating glass tech. I wanna say HTC but I'm not really sure.

Edit: Found it. Huawei P30 Pro

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

I think that you need a relatively large display in order for integrated speakers to be feasible, my 32 inch monitor has it but not sure it will work on a 7-8 inch display.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

The "no buttons" thing is kind of weird, but the lack of a punch hole camera is a huge win for me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

how are you gonna get into the bootloader