They are just being lazy and don't want to learn something new. Just let them do what they want. They're adults
this post was submitted on 13 Sep 2024
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Set up the system for them and let it do the talking I guess?
They can have both until they realize they don't need both.
This is the best option. Put the system in and go over a lot and show them that ALL of their shows they want are available. Then show what it costs. Pay for it yourself as a gift to them. Once they see the bill (if it's cheaper) and once they see ALL of their shows are available, that should convince them.
I did this almost completely except for PBS and Peacock because they have everything else already. Anything that’s different and they get deflated because they just want what they are used to
The question I would have at this point is how much of a change was it? For example, all their channels right now are coming through service, so that means one remote and effectively one graphical interface.
So under the new system with everything coming through one graphical interface? Or how many different systems would this entail? How many times would they have to change input? As a person gets older having to deal with multiple inputs, possibly even multiple remotes can be more headache than it is worth.
I don’t know what the age of your parents are, but with my mom she’s over 70, she knows the sound systems makes TV shows and movies sound much better, but all the extra remotes and changing of inputs, etc. it’s too much for her.
~~I don’t know what the age of your parents are, but with my mom she’s over 70, she knows the sound systems makes TV shows and movies sound much better, but all the extra remotes and changing of inputs, etc. she just it’s too much for her~~ no idea of why this got duplicated
again, I don’t know what the age of your parents are so I’m not sure if that would be a problem or not? But it is something I’m curious on is how many different interfaces/systems and remotes are they having to deal with when you put them over on the new system?
Also, sometimes even without age people are just going, give me one system, integrated into one interface, give me one remote and just let me view the shows.
Sorry if I sound like I’m arguing against you I do apologize if I sound that way. I’m just curious what your responses are , And if it turns out that it is a number of remotes, it might be something I think about.
They are 77. I set everything up to run through the smart tv interface (I know I know, but it’s easiest for them). They use the TV remote to choose either the DirecTV input, or whichever app they want to watch. (The sound outputs via ARC to the audio receiver).
Perhaps using an aggregator like Plex to have all the app content in one place, rather than spread across apps?
You've already done all you can.
Maybe it's more complicated then they want. Maybe they just don't want to change. Not much else you can do.
Alternatively, if they are happy with their pro-grums, familiar with the interface, and not getting gouged worse than the next cable subscriber — consider letting it rest.
From things like being able to punch in a channel number to having the cable company to call for issues, folks in that generation might really prefer paying.
I’m basing this on my years of experience with a now 60-something and now 80-something. YMMV
This. At some point I bet cable tv will be a lot cheaper, and you suffer ads, which is how it always should have been. 🤣
My grandfather had a wood burning stove as his only source of heat for YEARS. Refused to swap to gas.
One day, we distracted him with some friends and removed his stove literally behind his back. The next day, he was complaining he hadn't done it 40 years ago.
So maybe just do it when they're distracted.
Don't do it. They'll blame you for every perceived problem they have (most of which will not actually be problem).
It's expensive to refuse to learn new things.
If your parents are struggling to make ends meet at 77 then continue pressing the point and let them know why.
If they’re not let to go.
You’re good with tech and know they can save some money. If they don’t care about tech, and aren’t hurting for money, you’re just being annoying.
Had the same convo with my mom. That’s where the annoying line came from! She likes what she has and can afford it.
Now my sister ima boot in the head because she cancelled my mom’s landline for a cheaper cell plan. So now, oh…about 80% of the time I try to call mom her phone rings right into voicemail because she forgot to plug it in!
At the end of the day if they can afford it and don't want to change you've got to ask yourself if it really matters?
I know it's silly to pay over the odds for something but it's up to them really.
Maybe try to ween them off cable by cutting down to ultra basic cable. Still have access to local news.
How many good shows are no longer available, or required a more expensive package to keep? If that hasn't happened yet, it will soon.
My mom constantly complained about her favorite shows disappearing, so I bought her a ROKU and plugged it into her TV. She canceled her cable two months later.
Why do you care what they use? You are factually correct, but everyone knows that end user experience trumps all, and familiarity is a huge factor in that.
Let Meemaw have her picture box the way she likes it.
Is something like Plex an option? Get a hard drive, set up a request system (Ombi), then a little app on their phone can take requests and download the shows they feel like they're missing.
Done right it's a one time set up, and an up front payment but over the course of a year I feel like you're saving the cost of either DirectTV or the streaming services.
Also, you can tell them that DirecTV simply licenses shows the way streaming services do which is why they won't lose any content.
DirecTV also may something they prefer simply for what they're used to. At 7pm the same show comes on every day. If that's a part of it, my previous suggestion of a server for media is able to put together TV channels using something like DizqueTV. I understand that it's a bit of effort, though.
The simple truth is they probably are going to be missing out on those programs. Certainly that's my experience. However I think it's generally a good thing.
If they have to have a lot of channels then $120 isn't the worst price (I have relatives who pay twice as much as that a month for cable) though you could perhaps try and check into whether they could switch to a streaming linear TV service like DirecTV Stream with one of their lower tier packages to save some money while retaining a cable-like experience (there's also Sling, Hulu+Live TV, YoutubeTV, FUBO, etc, many of which have packages with many of the top channels for $60-$80/month).
Fact is to save money you need to be willing to give things up. If you're moving from a premium cable package with a ton of channels to a few streaming services you're going to lose things and potentially a lot of things. You're going to lose access to live news channels, you're going to lose access to specific programs on some networks that don't have streaming service equivalents (I know for one older person I knew the fact they couldn't get and watch Lifetime and Hallmark movies within any reasonable time-frame of their premier meant they were not interested in looking into streaming any further to replace their cable).
More than that though most old people hate change, they were used to a certain way of things and they're afraid and perhaps get confused or frustrated with this new way of doing things. It's simply more comfortable for them to use the old satellite system they're used to and its interface and way of changing channels than doing something new where they have to think of how to do something or get frustrated or ask for help. Which is why I do think trying a streaming cable replacement like those I mentioned might be your best bet. It would still save some money.
They actually won’t lose access to anything. I made sure of that before I began this initiative.
Literally cut the cord for them. Seriously though. If they are happy with it and can afford it, I'd just leave it alone
I fucking hate apps. Maybe I don't hate them enough to warrant 120 a month, but I can see why people pay extra not to have to bother with figuring out what show is on what app and how to search and cast and browse the damn things
If they use the TV box all the time, why do they have those apps?
You showed them the price difference. They clearly value the current setup over the savings. Unless they're using your money to pay for all this, just drop it.
If they use the TV box all the time, why do they have those apps?
Exactly. (They use both equally)
They are on a fixed income, and I would rather see them get a nice new mattress for my mom’s back pain, so she’s not in the living room every night sleeping in the recliner.
I totally agree, but unless there's something wrong with their mental faculties, they can choose back pain over TV savings. The downside of freedom of choice is that people make the wrong choices all the time.
Even if you cut 120 dollars a month, a good mattress will still be half a year or longer in the future. And that's with a normal one, not a medical mattress.
Maybe have them make a list of shows that are must haves. You map out how they can watch those shows and what it will cost. That should prove both aspects of your argument.
I think you're underestimating how resistant to charge old people can be.
“Simply present the relevant evidence. Surely they’ll change then”
You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink. I would say that doing this is more for you so that you can feel like you’ve done what you can and wash your hands of it
I did up a very easy to understand spreadsheet.
For my grandfather... The issue wasn't the shows, but he specifically wants a few news programs and will not under any circumstances go without them.
This was a problem for even going to Internet based streaming options because he just will not accept anything without those shows for more than a few months.
Meanwhile he also complains he doesn't have enough to watch and says he can't afford it (he can, he just doesn't like what it cost)... But those dang news channels... and just his outlook on TV in general.