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[–] [email protected] 119 points 10 months ago (13 children)

Privacy on a non-degoogled Android device is non existent. Just because only Google gets to munch on your data doesn't equal privacy.

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 10 months ago (21 children)

This meme is brought to you by someone who has no clue what iOS can do.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm patiently waiting for my 4th Pixel 5A RMA since they love frying motherboards outta nowhere but damn once you get grapheneos going it really is something else

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (8 children)
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[–] [email protected] 45 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, OP has no clue if they think privacy is better on Android.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Saying privacy is better on Android is literally insane, I can't think of a less private OS (talking about the version installed by manufacturers). Even Windows has some catching up to do to be as invasive.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

For wifi, I was pleasantly surprised that I could set a custom DNS on iOS while still using DHCP for other settings. Can only set DNS on Android if I use manual IP (or just use Wireguard).

Edit: not true, Android can have custom DNS with DHCP, see below.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The operating system that Google created to collect your data is secure? Not unless you get rid of all the Google services.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Don't confuse privacy and security. Android is a very secure system.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Android is AOSP, it has no Google at all. Don't confuse OEM ROMs and Android Open Source Project. As someone with GrapheneOS I can only laugh when someone calls iOS more private

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I don't confuse anything. All flavours of Android are secure systems, but that doesn't mean they're all private.

I definitely agree with you that Graphene is more private than iOS, which is probably more private than most OEM Android systems out there.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago (9 children)

The whiplash between posts on Lemmy is so great.

Everyone seems to hate google and how invasive they are while simultaneously simping for google’s mobile OS

This shit is so stupid.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago

If one person believes one thing and another person believes the opposite, that doesn't mean they're hypocrites. That means there isn't a consensus. Besides, android can be better than iOS and deserving of criticism at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago

Or maybe people hate Google ruining the internet AND realise that iOS is still much worse than Android? The two things are in no way mutually exclusive unless you view the world as a tribal binary.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Android can be whatever a dedicated community wants it to be, since it's open source at its AOSP core.

I love AOSP, but I hate what Google does with it. Or most other manufacturers, for that matter.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Chromium is open source, too, but so many projects putting all their eggs in the same basket gives Google carte blanche to push any standard they want as a new de-facto standard before the rest of us can decide on whether it's ready or needs changes or is just bad.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you can't or don't want to root the phone and install your own de-Googled Android rom then you could get an Android phone designed for mainland China, which will come with all of the Google stuff already removed.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (9 children)

Because I’d trust anything Chinese/for China more than I’d trust google.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (7 children)

You can't even install DNS66 from the play store because Google bans apps that block ads. This meme is way off the mark and I'm and android fanboy.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

If you are a android user that thinks the only source of apps is google play store, you aren't a real android user

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

The meme didn't mention the play store, anyone actually concerned with this stuff likely also is savvy enough to install apps without the play store.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

You can still install it from fdroid or github. And there's an alternative called PersonalDNSFilter if you really wanted an app from the play store.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

You can get it off f-droid

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is such a brain dead take. You cannot compare an OS from one developer to a device from another unspecified manufacturer with no context. No one would claim that a Samsung phone is more private than an iPhone, regardless of the "potential" in the context of degoogling, or the niche privacy switch that's present on less than 1/10,000 Android devices sold.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Yeah its much more fair to compare pixel devices to iphones. And it still matters if you install a custom rom onto it or not. In my use case yes a pixel is more secure but a lot of people who just go with the out if the box experience may be safer with apple.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Regular Android < iOS < Custom ROM

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Stock android ain't to bad

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

It’s almost impossible to buy a phone with plain android on it. Google’s version on the pixel is nice to use, but a privacy nightmare

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Button to disable all sensors? Which phone has this?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (7 children)

And how can we be sure it's doing what it says? It's software, on most phones you don't control software that is running above apps layer.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Especially if it's straight out of China. I just kicked back a fake 11 tablet that was actually 7. The OP advice is only useful if you're running a rom that you can at least audit the source of.

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