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I'm pushing half a century in an industry that is not kind to old guys. I try to fend it off but every now and then it hits me. I'm pretty sure this is not unique to my life experience, or it wouldn't have a term :-)

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Used to get it every time I read an article on the current state of climate change. The dread has kinda just shifted to acceptance. Short of some miracle-tier scientific breakthrough or like literal divine/extraterrestrial intervention, we're just hard fucked and there isn't jack we can do about it.

Kinda adopted the personality of this dude:

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I've been watching Station Eleven, The OA, and The Leftovers. The idea we're all just jumping around different timelines/dimensions, repeating the same stories over and over is kind of fun. But then I remember I've never seen any evidence that's even remotely true :/

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It comes in waves for me. I'll feel fine for a few weeks, maybe a month or two, then I'll be deep in the depths for days, weeks straight. Mostly at night, staring out my bedroom window, contemplating the horror of the abyss.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I have to agree with you here because it comes in waves for me as well. But often spread out between 4-6 months and then I'll get it for 2-3 weeks straight. It's very unpleasant and I'm sorry you're experiencing this.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Right back at you, yeah it's rough. I am seeking out getting medication for it but we'll see.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago (2 children)

At least once a week. Sometimes almost daily.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Pretty much daily. I just want it to end

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Ah it is 5:30, time for my evening existential crisis. I have to be sure not to go over again as I don't want to miss my show.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Existential?

More like Exponential Dread.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Almost never.

I used to have it a fair amount, and medicate myself to avoid it a fair amount as well, and then just about exactly 20 years ago, in the span of about three days, I started feeling sick, got more and more sick, went to the doctor and discovered I had cancer, and had emergency surgery. Then I went through about six months of really awful chemotherapy.

I definitely wouldn't recommend having cancer as a cure for existential dread, but it worked for me.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

As I have gotten older, the frequency of episodes have decreased. In my early 40's now. I would say it occurs at least once every 3-4 months as opposed to weekly in my teens.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

Wait, you guys stop having it?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

At 50+, I get it almost daily. I never had it before. Not sure if its the state of the world we live in now, aging, or a combination of both. All I know is I’m glad I’m old and won’t be around to see some of the stuff I’m scared of.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Every day since I was in junior high about. Knowing that I have nothing to really look forward to except working a job I don't really want to afford to barely keep myself alive right up until the day I die, alone and forgotten.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Hey, it could be worse, you could be a kid whose whole world is in the midst of melting down before they've even had a chance to realize what life could've been like if not for the shitty decisions of the preceeding generations.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

I accept it as a part of living.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I used to feel abject terror constantly. But you can only feel that way so long before something breaks in you.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Between COVID, climate change, and my own worsening health, pretty much constantly.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Whenever I think of the future I get it bad. Disabled, poor, parents are my carers, couldn’t afford to live on my own even if I could. And every year the bushfires get bigger and closer to home. If I let it it constant dread would become my default state, but I am aware of this and try to focus on the now.

Not to say I don’t do my best to safe guard the future, have plans in place for if I ever need to navigate the things that scare me most. But I try not to dwell on it. Someday my parents will die, failing some sort of miracle I will end up in a care home without my pets. But I might also drop dead tomorrow in which case all my worrying will have been for nothing.

Right now at this very moment things are going ok and the number one thing that makes it not ok is worrying about a time in the future when its entirely not ok. But why meet it in the middle? I can’t change the rivers current, best I can do is try to steer on the odd occasion where the path splits.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Not worried about being dead, really. I didn’t exist for millennia, I got my time in the sun, I won’t exist for the rest of time. It hasn’t bothered me.

Dying on the other hand sounds like a painful, grief-ridden, stress filled misery. I really don’t want to have anything to do with a drawn-out death. That’s what bothers me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Weekly. I'm pushing 50yo too. My industry is dying a slow death.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Not sure to up our down vote lol

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

I may be relatively young compared to other guys on this thread, but I'm also a victim of something like this. Recently I'm fighting with the company I've worked for over so tiny shit that it astonishes me, and terrifies because of consequences of incorrect actions from my side. I've understood years ago that I'm no one and will achieve nothing, so it hits less. This dread also comes in waves, as I was good for whole 3 months, and now to the same old shit. Sigh.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Always. I stopped caring. The world will burn, whatever. Who cares.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

"Who cares" is main reason why I have existential dread. Other reasons are that I'm just shit at living life.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Same.

Its taking a long while to not still have moments of dread though.

World's fucked and burning. Somehow that's partisan.

Almost 15% of the population of my country thinks climate change is fake news.

Massive corruption in the highest levels of government, which no one can apparently do anything about.

Massive wealth inequality, American dream is dead.

No one can afford a house because of the wealth inequality and companies like blackrock buying them all..

Also, we are going over the tipping point for mass extinction.

Yeah we are totally fucked in every direction. Time to do some drugs about it I guess.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Not enough of these say “hourly” for me to be comfortable answering.

Are y’all not freaking out every second or-…?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Often, although I suspect that I just feel bad, and need to make up stories to justify the bad feelings. So, it doesn't have to be existential.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Very rarely. Cosmic insignificance, radical freedom, the impossibility to establish or confirm ultimate Truth, and the socially constructed nature of most of our subjective realities did feel overwhelming to me when I was younger. As I've sat with these inescapable realities over the years they're as much facts of life to me as my inevitable death. These are things which are completely outside of my control, so I just accept them as aspects of my reality and worry about what my limited self can affect for myself and those around me. By chance, my being is a somewhat self-aware mind in a human body so I'd like to experience being that for as long as I can. I try to help others out when I can as well. I would like to see us move toward a fair and just global society for mankind, but that's not something any individual knows how to execute or probably is capable of executing. I'm not responsible for the success of that project and really no one can be, but I want that to happen so I try to contribute because that's literally the most I'm capable of. For my physical self, either I can survive using the resources and skills I've accumulated over my lifetime in whatever context my world goes or I can't. If I can't survive, then I'm not going to be worried about anything after I'm dead so the prospect of my death doesn't really bother me and never has.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Once or twice a month, maybe. I was fine with not existing for several trillion years before I was born, I'm sure I won't mind it when I return to the Truth that is the infinite void.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It depends on where it comes from. There is a defeatism that comes from my cynicism, but there is also the existential dread lying awake at night that I deal with as well.

I’m curious about what specifically it is stemming from? In your post you mention feeling aged out in an industry you have become extremely accustomed to. Do you feel like your value is very much driven by what you do? If you were to be aged out and eventually replaced do you feel like a large part of yourself would be missing?

In regards to how often I experience dread, it can be an every day thing. But it depends on what it comes from. There is the dread from feeling powerless to change my environment or culture I am in, but I have found personally that living to bring joy in the small things helps with that. If the dread is from questioning my purpose if there even is one, it’s the same line of thinking for me as before.

I have no clue if that provides any value but I hope you find peace amidst what you’re going through.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Errr... daily? To one degree or another, probably not healthy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

In my early twenties it was nearly constant. It's subsided greatly since then. At a certain point I think I just accepted that "there is no meaning, so it's ok".

So once you get there, and you start understanding capitalism, then that takes over as the most all consuming topic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Everytime i listen minecraft music for a while, i have terrible trougts about the future, all the persons i know dying one by one, and everything i know and use today being forgotten somehow.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I suspect I've undiagnosed manic-depressive disorder, but either way I get heavy existential dread for 1-4 weeks straight, then reoccurring again in 1-3 months. I also get similar pressure from my industry. So I do feel you :(

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Maybe once a week? I don't worry about myself so much, but others down the line. Things look grim.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Depends on what "existential dread" means.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Every time I see a HexBear or Lemmygrad instance post. These people are so braindead that I just can't accept life anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Almost Daily. It's a manifestation of my persistent melancholic depression. At some point, at least once almost every day, I'll spend some time more or less paralyzed thinking about strangelets or meteor strikes or other shit that can wipe out the world and there's nothing we can do about it. I'll then go looking for more reasons to just not bother living if I can get off the couch.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Software development

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I'm glad I'm not alone. Thank you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Depends on how we define it. I've dreaded my existence most of my life.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago
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