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[–] [email protected] 96 points 10 months ago (1 children)

when Russia becomes the third world nation in a proxy war.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (43 children)

Russia has been a third world nation since the collapse of the Soviet Union. Politicians just like to use the Russian boogeyman to scare people who remember the Cold War. Putin may be a monster, but China is the real threat.

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 10 months ago (41 children)

Just an endless slew of clickbait "China bad" headlines all the time. Really makes you wonder about if there is some sort of systemic problem with western media.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 54 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Be careful, saying something like that might get you called a wumao

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 10 months ago

If you want to see consent being manufactured, go into the Telegraph and click through to the journalist's ~~post history~~ article history

[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 months ago

It's going to be hilarious in a year or so when we'll have LLM bots churning these types of articles out even at respected news outlets, and all critics of this narrative will still get smeared as being bots themselves

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Whaaat? But China said they weren't doing that. China wouldn't just lie like that, would it?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Did you check behind their back to see if their fingers were crossed?

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, if you go to aliexpress, you could buy Chinese made helicopter, drones and metals. Thank you the telegraph for the basic info

[–] [email protected] 65 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

If you search for certain military equipment, you’ll often see reviews from Russian soldiers and Ukrainian soldiers right next to each other lol

[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Like, the yank was so mad at Ukrainian keep using Chinese drone, that they force them to stop buying it and use their expensive drone.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The Pentagon is mad that Congress forced them to stop buying Chinese drones. Apparently there are no available replacements in some categories and even where there are, they are many times more expensive.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

Rural communities have been using Huawei equipment for internet because it’s cheap and fast. The federal government became upset and demanded they rip everything and replace it with American parts. I think it costs like $12 billion, but the US didn’t even give the communities 50% of the required amount to switch over

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I love watching Congress fuck over the Pentagon. Just the worst people in the world slapfighting over fake money. Probably a bad idea to let hundreds of lead huffing jet ski dealers whose only qualification is buying more TV add time than their opponents run a global empire.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (4 children)

My favorite instance of this was the US Army begging congress not to buy more Abrams tanks because they were already too expensive to maintain but congress overruling them and ordering them to buy more to keep the factories open.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago

That's gotta be in some cyberpunk book somewhere. Especially if they start giving different ratings to the equipment and flaming each other over it.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (74 children)

China: sends Russia six helicopters (before the war), some children's toys, a box of consumer-grade hunting scopes, and metal. They are the bad guys who are prolonging the war.

NATO: sends Ukraine weapons and military vehicles worth more than China's entire military budget, and provides training and logistics support. They are the good guys trying to end the war.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 10 months ago

The liberals only read the titles and then come straight to the comment sections so they don't actually realise any of this unless you spell it out for them.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Focusing on Chinese drones that end up in Russia while completely ignoring the Chinese drones that end up in the Ukraine is some cherry picking I expected from the Telegraph. Products and components are made in China, which shouldn't come as a surprise.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago (11 children)

This is referring to consumer level drones too right? Like DJI stuff?

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The Telegraph is the only one reporting this, we're supposed to believe a sensationalist conservative tabloid?

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago (1 children)

China is widely suspected of supplying Russia with equipment and materials to support their war, however no-one has adduced anything concrete to support that theory so far.

The article itself doesn't cite much in the way of sources or evidence, other than mentioning a report by Molfar, the open source intelligence agency. Molfar has published reports on the same topic in the past, but there hasn't been anything recently.

If the Telegraph had new information or evidence they would be shouting a lot louder than this. This is most likely them covering up for a quiet day by dredging up some old rumours and repackaging them as news.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago (25 children)

Beijing issued a 12-point “peace statement” earlier this year that rehashed its position and did not propose any solutions to ending the war.

You obviously didn't read it then...

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 months ago (12 children)

telegraph getting upset about free markets?

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