I see that the man is very excited, but the dishwasher doesn't seem too happy about the arrangement.
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Can you explain why that's funny?
Because Lemmy users are 77% men. Jokes like this are excused with 'satire' and if you aren't one of them you wouldn't get it.
Inb4 the hate, let me absolve with satire as an excuse before any of you start overreacting.
This type of humor has already aged. It'll die soon. No need to think about it.
Not the person that made the joke, but…
Calling her a dishwasher is based on attitudes where women are the homeworkers. I see the joke as taking the piss out of people with that attitude, not the woman herself. We all know that she is a human being with thoughts and feelings like the rest of us and no one ever thought otherwise.
So it's funny because some people with that attitude exist, and therefore you make a joke those people would make? How is that different from saying a racist joke and claiming you're making fun of racists? (non-hostile question)
Throw in some subtle nuance in the delivery, and I've done similar to basically call someone a jackass to their face.
For a rough example - attending a kids birthday party in the presence of racist ex-inlaws. Somebody says something predictably racist, I say something obnoxious which on the surface sounds like I might agree with them for half a second, then the realization hits that I was making fun of them and I roll my eyes and walk away.
I mean, you don’t have to get somebody’s humor, but it’s funny because of how shocking and absurd it is. The same goes for some racist jokes imo.
It subverts the expectation by calling the woman a dishwasher. This is the humour. I don't find it offensive because I assume they're joking, and it's a reasonable assumption because there is a real dishwasher at play while he referred to the woman as a dishwasher, making it quite clear he was simply joking and not serious positing that women belong in the kitchen.
I remember something similar on Reddit where there was a subreddit that made ironic humour about Trump, however it quite quickly turned into a serious subreddit over time because some people took it seriously.
I've seen similar happen with LGBT jokes or misogynistic jokes and they will escalate over time while you also get told you're too uptight and to relax. This also was beginning to happen in 196 on lemmy with trans people.
Satire requires a clarity of purpose and target lest it be mistaken for and contribute to that which it intends to criticize
Archie Bunker is a great example of satire that just reinforced prejudice among the people watching All In The Family who were already bigoted. They don’t see themselves or Archie as the joke. So ultimately you’re just giving air time to bigotry if your satire isn’t both scathing and clear.
I don’t know who you’re quoting, but it’s not me. I didn’t make the joke and if someone were to be actually misogynist in my life I would speak up about it. This doesn’t bother me.
I know it’s not from you, it’s a quote about satire in general. I posted it because it was relevant to the conversation.
I don’t think just repeating misogynistic jokes without commentary and then blaming people for not knowing it was actually ironic misogyny and not “real” misogyny is effective at critiquing misogyny or beyond criticism.
Does it matter that the joke goes over those people's heads? The fact that they don't know they're being mocked makes it funnier.
Yes because then they feel confident with their views, after all it's being plastered in front of them so it must be okay right?
Wether or not they get the joke doesn't change anything. Satire isn't going to stop a bigot from being a bigot. It's like those dumbass who are suddenly afraid of the okay sign. Like, they have you by the balls dude. They're bending you over and fucking you hard, and you're letting them. It's pointless. At some point you just need to say fuck it and live, because bigots are going to bigot no matter what who does. If a piece mocking them makes them comfortable enough to expose themselves, that's a good thing.
Yes, the old misogyny-switcheroo
Exactly. That and taking the piss out of people too sensitive to see that.
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The man is excited because he will no longer have to hand wash dishes.
The woman is disappointed as she doesn't wash dishes and therefore puts a lower value on the time the man will save form no longer hand washing.
Fuck, I'd be excited to win almost anything.
Not too proud to admit I got way too excited when I got my first Dyson. If anyone has animals with long hair, you'll understand.
I haven't used my dishwasher or dryer since I moved in to my trailer. Hand washing dishes and hanging clothes to dry doesn't take long enough for me to give a shit lol
How do you wash the clothes?
Oh those I machine wash. Fuck using a washboard lol
But running a dishwasher (if you already have one and use powder and not tabs) is much cheaper in water heating costs than washing by hand.
I think that's only true if you're actually filling the dish washer with dirty dishes. It would take me long enough to fill my dish washer that it would start to stink.
When I was living alone I had something that was called "table dishwasher". It was a little thing with only one drawer and I filled it roughly every 1-2 days.
An average (read large) dishwasher consumes ~12l of water per cycle. That's equivalent to letting the tap run for ~30 seconds.
A good dishwasher uses ~0.6kwh/cycle. That's equivalent to ~10l of hot water. Again, ~30 seconds of tap water.
Tbh I don't think I run the faucet for 30 seconds to wash dishes for the day. It's basically just cutting board, knife, a plate, and a bottle. 10 seconds max
I'll remember that on the rare occasions I cook up food for lots of people, though. That's definitely more than 30 seconds!
You must not have a wife that uses every single dish and utensil in arms reach when she cooks lol
I cook and washing utensils isn't hard?
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