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[–] [email protected] 84 points 10 months ago (24 children)

Does this apply to all works of fiction, or only those believed by extremist groups?

I can understand not being allowed to burn historically significant documents and books, but mass-produced books are just cheap fire tinder.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If this goes through, my wife might get her wish when I disparage the Harry Potter books.

I'm too pretty for prison.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The centre-right government said it wanted to send a signal to the world.

That Denmark negotiates with terrorists?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Depends on how they plan to handle it. If a new law was formed specifically around the Quran, there might be a case.

But if it's outlawing book burning in general, that's quite another story.

Personally, I don't understand why a law like that isn't already in place after WW2.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

But if it’s outlawing book burning in general, that’s quite another story.

“The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread.” The intended target of this law is crystal clear.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Burn whatever you want, hate whoever you please. It is unpleasant however better than the thought police sending you to the ice prisons for ungood ideas. This idea that censorship stops anything but innovation and creativity is ludicrous.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Burn whatever you want, hate whoever you please.

Yikes.

It is unpleasant however better than the thought police sending you to the ice prisons for ungood ideas.

Better for whom? Not for the victims of hate crimes, of course.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Better for racists lol

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yfw when you can’t say slurs without consequences angery

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

Fuck the Quran

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

Denmark... do you believe in fairies?

No.

Then quit acting like it.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What about burning "The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster" or "Dianetics" books? Or Harry Potter, or LOTR books?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

The law includes all religious texts. If an organization achieves religious status it will have the same protections.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Loads of people burnt Harry Potter books online over the last few years since Rowling went mental over LGBT issues.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Lots of people burned them when they were released because they are morons. Now I bet they defend her because she expresses hate towards the same people they hate.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (13 children)

To the people defending this proposed law - hypothetically, if I were to set up a white board outside a mosque and draw the prophet, would you also be in favor of the police arresting me for ... drawing?

If so, why?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I think this may already be illegal. You would be inciting and degrading members of a legal religion in Denmark, which has been against the law there since 1939. Blasphemy Laws were taken off the books in 2017, but this is a step back in that same direction. But then there is amendments to the constitution, I don't fully understand.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Hinduism often has a belief in, "sanctity of the cow, ... the belief that the cow is representative of divine and natural beneficence and should therefore be protected and venerated" (Brittanica).

One could argue that eating beef is inciting and degrading to [probably a select few] members of Hinduism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

The difference is Hindus won't murder you.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's messed up, whatever happened to separation of church and state

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

OK I sort of get it, not that I agree with it, but 2 years in jail? That's absurd.

I'm from a conservative area and have heard countless stories of people who were traumatized in the name of Christianity. If one of those people feels like desecrating the Bible then it's just a form of personal expression. If that upsets you well then start a conversation with them and learn from each other. Putting someone in jail is not the solution.

I'm just saying Christianity has a broad spectrum and has changed a lot over time. Even from a Christian point of view you must value criticism in order to find the way forward. That counts for all religions. And if you don't think so, you're just arrogant.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Hate speech isn't free speech!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hate speech has no objective definition.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

Language is a social phenomenon, yes.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Hate Speech laws get an L from me. Hate crime laws where a crime motivated by prejudice awards extra jail time is just a better solution. Think about what this is really saying - if you burn the Quran, muslims will riot... in Iraq. And the Iraqi government will condemn you. Really?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Why not just make a law against inciting acts of aggression? Filming yourself burning religious texts is purposely trying to piss people off. That way it would cover anything that has the same goal without being just about religion. Freedom of expression, unless it's just trying to make others angry.

Lets the law handle each case individually.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

How about we strive for a society where people can burn their own property without having to worry about violence?

The islamists that react violently are only proving the point of the people burning the books. Tbh if you try to hurt someone for just burning SOMETHING THEY OWN, maybe you don't deserve to live in a first world country.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I argue that law should be used against those who react to these burnings in an aggressive manner. Violence is already covered.

If they stop taking unnecessary offense, I assume the burnings will stop too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Not necessarily, if I were to burn a Bible and no one cares but they still continue revoking abortion access (and further bigotry) then I will probably keep burning bibles ib protest of the christofascists.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

But I wanted to keep burning Qurans in front of mosques on their holiest days and burning crosses on the lawns of black people powercry-2

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

When you really think about it burning a book is, in fact, censorship theory-gary

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