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[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago (9 children)

This title almost reads like The Onion.

On a serious note, why? These people (on both sides) have enough money saved, health benefits etc to comfortably retire. Why don’t they? Are they so bought and paid for that their ‘investors’ won’t let them?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

The US legislatures give a lot of power based on seniority. There's a lot of incentive for a party to keep members in office as long as possible.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Power. And need to feel useful.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

"Need to feel useful" feels like an altruistic decision. I believe most of these people are all but that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What I meant is a retiree crisis. You have been working for 40/50 odd years, and all of a sudden you loose the one thing that gave structure to your life.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Right, like my father who only now has been forced to retire at 70 after a covid induced blood clot behind his eye took his vision. He only had the one good eye after an accident in his teens blinded the other, and he doesn’t complain about the near total blindness, he complains about the boredom from lack of stuff to do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe he should run for office? With a resume like that I bet he could at least score a seat in the house of representatives

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Just look at all the life experience he has! The whole 70 years of i!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

The need to feel useful isn’t really altruistic. Sure, it can be, but the vast majority of the time it’s a selfish urge to satisfy one’s own dopamine rush of accomplishment mixed with “I’m the only one who can do this” thoughts. Throw in a dash of mental illness and a sprinkling of “this is how we did it in the good ole days”, and it’s more harm than help.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Maybe we can increase the laughing stock factor so there's less of a pull. Maybe then they'll have some better candidates?

To be fair, after trump biden has a big act to follow and going for a nap hardly cuts the mustard...

I don't think it'll work with the batshit crazy politics the us has, just fuels the division

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Why should they retire? They don't actually do anything. They figure they might as well be there to soak up the corrupt funds instead of some other placeholder.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

When these people are strong and healthy they need to foster the next generations so that the party has a good idea who their successor should be so that there party doesn't fall into shambles and infighting every time one of them dies or retires.

The problem is that they don't do that. It is in their interest that there are no viable alternatives to them because good alternatives to them threaten their power. Until they are suddenly 80 that is and nobody knows how to replace them so they have to sit on their thrones and hold on for as long as possible.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Seniority plays a major role in committee appointments. Sure, you could replace the senile 95 year old who doesn't know the cold war is over with a younger candidate, but that senile 95 year old has been in Congress for longer than the other guy has been alive, and he's on some important committees because of it that the younger candidate wouldn't be able to be in

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

People who made it that far up are usually very driven, their job is their whole identity.

It's probably hard to walk away from something they dedicated so much of their life to. More so if it involved sacrificing time for relationships, family, friends, etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Also their job is probably pretty good. I mean, you probably don’t really have bad days the way the rest of the working world does.

I’m self employed and I love what I do, I can’t imagine ever walking away from it. I slow down my pace as I get older, but I won’t stop completely.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Some of them have a serious insider trading addiction

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

>Are they so bought and paid for that their ‘investors’ won’t let them?

Yes

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Someone else recently explained it best: It's elderly abuse.

The entourage encircling these elderly congressional leaders are profiting greatly. As soon as these senators retire, these leeches lose nearly everything.

It's a Weekend At Bernie's movie plot, but with extra steps.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

Man.. the US is not in a good place

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

No shit? Really? Wow, thanks guys! I never would have guessed that were it not for the hard working folks at the Pentagon!

😐

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (3 children)

There really needs to be term limits for Congresspeople.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

True, but this is only part of the solution. Term limits can cause the real power locus to move to those unlimited proximate positions. A holistic solution involving congressional term limits, limits on staff and lobbyists, etc that all work in concert to prevent hoarding of power is what's needed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

age limits; term limits have some actual negatives like getting rid of good representatives and increasing corruption.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

This would solve the issue without being ableist

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

I actually like the gerontocracy. I think it rules. Let's see how far we can push it, let's get a 125 year old president

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

At least his eyes point in the same direction

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

DAE in bad country the rulers were increasingly out of touch old people biden-rember

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Well yeah. No one over the age of 60 is mentally fit to work any job (especially not in a decision making role). Retirement age should be 55.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

No one over the age of 60 is mentally fit to work any job

Why do you think this?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I strongly disagree and my job is researching Alzheimer's and age-related cognitive decline

Age-related decline is minor and Alzheimer's is rare. Neither should play a role in forced retirement