this post was submitted on 13 Sep 2023
-5 points (39.1% liked)
Memes
44124 readers
1927 users here now
Rules:
- Be civil and nice.
- Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
Really looking forward to block-by-domain...
Connect app already has it. I just don't use it, because the Internet commies are funny.
I've been contentedly silent til now, but I would also like OP to know that I keep them unblocked to laugh at them. I've thought about it several times, but then you get weird shit like "ripped Karl Marx" and "Communists are a separate subspecies of human."
with the communist red and yellow hammer and sicle? is this a joke? how'd that work out for the ussr, cuban, north korean, and chinese citizens? keep using the graphics of failure, i'm sure at some point it'll mask all the reality of disaster.
OP thinks all the victims of communism are either enemies of the people or made up by the CIA or some other dumb shit
OP thinks all the victims of communism are either enemies of the people or made up by the CIA or some other dumb shit
I think the Nazis predate the CIA
I said victims, not allies
are you kidding me? 8 out of 10 Nazi soldiers died on the Eastern front, Soviets are the single greatest bringer of Nazi death that has ever existed
Sure, after 2 years of happy alliance. Stalin doesn't get extra credit for being stabbed in the back by his ally. He still chose to make an alliance with Hitler.
In justification of the crucifixion of Czechoslovakia at Munich it was said that [the Soviet Union] could not be trusted and that her assistance would not be worth much in any case. On the points there could be honest difference of opinion, but not about the diplomatic record. Certainly the Czech Government did not doubt [the Soviet Union]'s sincerity. At a session of the Harris Institute at the University of Chicago in August 1939 I asked President [of Czechoslovakia] Benes whether [the Soviet Union] would have supported him had he decided to fight in September 1938. He replied, without an instant's hesitation: "There was never any doubt in my mind that [the Soviet Union] would aid us by all the ways open to her, but I did not dare to fight with [Soviet] aid alone, because I knew that the British and French Governments would make out of my country another Spain."
Denna F. Flemming; The Cold War and Its Origins, 1917-1960; Vol 1, 1917-1950; Page 84
All the [the Soviet Union] is just replacing Russia (the author likes using Russia instead of SU), it changes the quote in no way.
Actions speak louder than words. Maybe Stalin gave Czechoslovakia some nice words, but what he did was help Hitler invade Poland as a friend and ally.
Indeed, actions speak louder than words. And what Britain and France did, was help Germany invade Austria, Czechoslovakia, Poland. And ensured Fascism would win in Spain. When Adolf wanted an army, a navy, an airforce, they gave it to him.
Appeasement worked. Germany went to war.
What Britain and France did was declare war on Germany after the joint invasion of Poland from Hitler and his Soviet allies.
They did, after they finally realized what they had done. Read The Cold War and Its Origins.
What "they" had done? Are you seriously trying to blame Stalin signing a military alliance with Hitler on Neville Chamberlain being an appeasing dick?
Read a book. I already recommended you one.
A book commonly regarded as Soviet imperial apologia, recommended by a tankie from lemmygrad
In what way is it "commonly regarded"? Where? Who? WTF are you talking about? I genuinely want to know.
Chamberlain was booted out of office over appeasement. You're still defending Stalin's decision to invade Poland with the Nazis. That's the difference between reasonable people and tankies.
The USSR "invaded" 16 days after the Germans. At that time, there was no Poland. The Government had been interned in Romania.
Why put invaded in quotes? Did it not happen?
At that time, there was no Poland
The Polish government fled to Romania the day after the Soviets invaded. So yes, there was still a Poland. Just like there was a Poland when the Soviets and the Nazis planned to invade the country and split it amongst themselves.
Right, Seems so. They only passed the Romanian border on the 17th.
Yeah, they were never allies Wiki: Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.
Do you think an evening on Wikipedia to enlighten you might frighten you?
That's exactly the alliance I was referring to, thank you
A non-aggression pact is an alliance now? I guess up means down now as well.
When you split up Poland with someone in a joint military invasion and help support their military with massive economic supplies, yes, you're allies.
That's what I thought.
Yeah when you help the Nazis invade Poland, that's an alliance.
In before "well akshually helping the Nazis was a good thing because the polish were the real Nazis" tankie apologia
Lol cope
not necessarily condoning the propaganda edits without jokes or humor being posted in the meme communities several times a day lately but here's the pretty unanimous "tankie" line on that question if you'd actually like an answer (~30 minute read, original medium link)
here's the pretty unanimous "tankie" line on that question
"This essay is presenting a very one-sided depiction of socialist states, with a great many of their shortcomings, mistakes, failures, and crimes (yes, a few) omitted or barely discussed"
Their many shortcomings, mistakes, failures and crimes (more than a few) are why I have a disinterest in engaging with these political movements.
Sorry i'm not into socialising.
Nice joke my man, nice joke.
What's a socialist? Why do you want me to become one? What's in it for you?