MultigrainCerealista

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I see a lot of geopolitical calculus in your response - to what extent is the influence of the US over Europe and European markets limited by a Russian victory. You present something of a US-centric point of view but sure it’s a valid one. If Russia wins then yes likely the geopolitical influence of the USA will be knocked back to where it was in the 1980s with true multipolar politics, and it’s also true that if Europe wasn’t sanctioning Russian energy then they’d likely be buying that much cheaper energy, thereby reducing the geopolitical influence of the USA over Europe.

So I think I agree with most of what you say. But your perspective leaves something very important out of the equation:

Where does the will of the people who live in Donbas and Lubansk and Crimea factor into your math? Do we respect their right to self-determination? If not, why not?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

The US is calling for the Somme

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

this guy keeps posting accurate information about how the propaganda I was fed since birth is wrong and that makes me angry and defensive

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

They exercise editorial control and they exercise it vigorously, so when they report on something it’s for a reason.

Does your comment intend to imply they’re just presenting some economic data points or something? It seems kind of inane to pretend that they don’t have a lens where this is a bad thing. That China bad etc etc.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (6 children)

The crisis is over

That’s the thing. It isn’t.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 10 months ago (11 children)

Ukraine should perform under the flag of Bandera

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

It is though. You can look at so many measures from perception of democracy among the citizens, the degree to which power is devolved to the local level most answerable to the community, and the turnover of elected officials being far higher than western democracies which usually feature politicians with what amounts to lifelong tenure.

People actually think China is still run the way it was back in the 1960s because their world view is formed from memes. It’s a democracy and a more vibrant one than what we usually see in the west.

But someone will reply to this with a meme about social credit without realizing they don’t earn Reddit gold here.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago

Our posting power is high and we are online a lot

[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The Hungarian uprising was killing Jews in the street. It was anti-Semitic from the beginning and the “Jewish Bolshevik” idea from the Nazi era was a motivating factor with the fact several leaders of the Hungarian government were Jewish cited as a battle cry.

https://www.jta.org/2006/10/25/lifestyle/1956-crises-decimated-two-communities

After the uprising, 200,000 Hungarian Jews fled the country fearing it signaled a return of the antisemitism of the recent Nazi-collaborationist regime of the 1940s.

Sending the tanks in to stop this was a good thing. It would have been better if the anti-Semitic uprising was stopped before the pogroms started.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes at one point Putin sought to join NATO and the idea didn’t gain traction.

I don’t understand how you feel this helps your argument.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

What are you talking about? The Cuban missile crisis was resolved by the missiles being removed and the soviet military presence ended in Cuba.

You’re factually wrong when you seem to say the soviet missiles are still there. They were removed.

The US’s security interests demanded they were removed from the nearby Cuba, and US missiles that threatened the USSR were removed from Turkey.

Peace was achieved by withdrawing the military threat from each others borders.

Likewise peace in Ukraine can only be achieved if Russia doesn’t feel threatened by a NATO presence there.

It’s easy to understand.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Yes, but the point is with Cuba, missiles were removed, peace deal was reached.

Yeah so the obvious conclusion is that peace in Cuba required satisfying the US’s demand to not have a Soviet military presence there.

Likewise peace in Ukraine requires not having a NATO military presence there.

Pretending that NATO isn’t hostile to Russia is also simply disconnected from reality. You need to connect your world view to reality.

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