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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (41 children)

There's at least a grain of truth in that book. Try starting a business or producing something.

Look at domestic attempts to mine lithium or building semiconductor plants. Try building anything here.

“When you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing; when you see that money is flowing to those who deal not in goods, but in favors; when you see that men get rich more easily by graft than by work, and your laws no longer protect you against them, but protect them against you. . . you may know that your society is doomed.”

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (13 children)

That's how you trick the gullible, start with a bit of truth they can understand and then jump off the deep end into lunacy.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You can agree with some principles of a work and reject others. What parts of her philosophy do you find to be lunacy?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What parts of her philosophy do you find to be lunacy?

“A man's sexual choice is the result and the sum of his fundamental convictions.... He will always be attracted to the woman who reflects his deepest vision of himself, the woman whose surrender permits him to experience a sense of self-esteem. The man who is proudly certain of his own value, will want the highest type of woman he can find, the woman he admires, the strongest, the hardest to conquer--because only the possession of a heroine will give him the sense of an achievement.”

Almost forgot:

“In this world, either you're virtuous or you enjoy yourself. Not both, lady, not both.”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah.. I'm not a fan of that either personally.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The premise that some people are just better than everyone else is not intelligent. Valuing a person's worth as a human by measuring their productivity is genocidal.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Valuing a person’s worth as a human by measuring their productivity is genocidal.

Of course you don't value people based on their productivity! That's downright anti-American "from each according to his ability" commie talk! You value people based on their net worth! One Dollar, One Vote, that's what I always say.

/s,

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Some people are just better in terms of being productive. I don't see how that's debatable. The question is just if you let those people keep they're outsized earnings or you forcibly redistribute them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm going to respond so hopefully you grow.

Productivity is difficult to measure or define. Intelligence is similar. Regardless, neither of these things define value in a human life. Some people love to cook, some are great at reading comic books. One might be really good at watching TV. In the end, your preference for what is seen as valuable comes to your preference. There's nothing objective about it. More concretely, in many engineering jobs great engineers are promoted into management positions for which they are ill suited. They make more money, are they not definitionally more productive? Yet the company and team is worse off.

As for your question, Rand is not subtle about her thoughts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Odd to me that you equate productivity with the value of a person.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I do not. Rand explicitly does.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Her stances on Race, Rape, Economics, Gender, and her Writing style...all lunacy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I like her stance on economics and free markets .. Also the prime mover concept is somewhat accurate

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