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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (10 children)

China crying when the US does the same thing in return. Why does the CCP act so childish ?

No really why ? They are actively using exported digital and electronics goods to spy on everyone. They try to catch political dissidents outside their borders, spy on several government infrastructures and try to instigate a new form of colonialism in Africa, so what exactly are they crying about ?

I really despise these hypocrites.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is a bizarre reply. What would be the adult response for China after discovering cyber attacks carried out by the US government?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Their whole political identity is being against the US. Other than that, a more "adult" response would be to not immediately accuse the US of everything bad that happened. Another problem with the CCP is that they refuse to say the truth when it isn't convenient to them, they are not transparent at all on their investigations and sources.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago

From what I read, it seems like they took over a year to investigate the cyber attack before making their conclusions public.

Also I thought the party line was communism, not anti-Americanism.

To be honest, this here doesn't seem that out-of-place in terms of how a sovereign nation would respond to a cyber attack by another sovereign nation.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Their whole political identity is being against (country)

ONLY CHINESE BOTS DO THAT, NOT LIKE ME, THE MAIN CHARACTER maybe-later-honey

Other than that, a more "adult"

I AM THE ADULT IN THE ROOM, JUST LIKE THE ADULTS IN THE ROOM RATIONALIZING WAR CRIMES IN MY TV SHOWS maybe-later-honey

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

Their whole political identity is being against the US

kettle

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

they are not transparent at all on their investigations and sources.

God, I just hate when they are completely opaque in their accusations. Good thing they fired Ned Price.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

a new form of colonialism in Africa

Aka not colonialism.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

colonialism is when you build bridges and train stations xigma-male

non-colonialism is when you have 50+ military bases scattered across a foreign continent and keep all their cash in your banks and don't allow them to even withdraw it and you assassinate the last 10 democratically elected leaders who tried to change this arrangement nato-cool

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

But you see, bridges and train stations are clearly racist because they're built by Chinese people on time and on budget.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They are actively using exported digital and electronics goods to spy on everyone.

https://www.cnet.com/news/privacy/nsa-reportedly-installing-spyware-on-us-made-hardware/

They try to catch political dissidents outside their borders,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Assange

spy on several government infrastructures

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-security-agency-spied-merkel-other-top-european-officials-through-danish-2021-05-30/

and try to instigate a new form of colonialism in Africa, so what exactly are they crying about ?

https://www.africom.mil/

I really despise these hypocrites.

I’ll save you the trouble and put “Whatsboutism” here so you don’t even have to reply.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

It's projection. It's clear and obvious projection.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This, except its the other way around. The amount of American crying about cyberattacks is crazy given the amount of evidence they have provided.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Chinese foreign policy has rarely deviated from moderate, trade-oriented and relatively apolitical over the past few decades. I think the massive allocation of US taxpayer funds toward negative coverage of China has swayed your opinion to the most hawkish extreme. None of these accusations really exist outside of the anglosphere and HK/Taiwan based Sinophone disinfo networks, however most of them are widely acknowledged as crimes that the US has committed in the very recent past in some capacity.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

this dude over here really had his "chinabad" switch turned on in 2018 and doesn't even realize it or remember what it was like in the before-fore times

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Taiwanese media wasn't even that dedicated to Chinese disinformation up until like 2016 or whatever.

Relations were normalizing across the strait smh.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

How about we publish instances of such crimes by all governments and hold all of them accountable?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

China does not take an interest in spying on the average westerner.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, it's just common sense to treat others the same way you expect them to treat you. In a ~~perfect~~ more pleasant world neither the west or china would feel the need to spy on each other, but we are where we are.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

In a ~~perfect~~ more pleasant world

In a more pleasant world, America would've shuttered its surveillance apparatus and downcycled the embryonic military-industrial complex directly after World War 2, rather than being cartoonishly evil and inventing a new term for a 'propaganda war' with aim to snuff out the one system that presented clear opposition to the oligarchic tyranny of capital; then having a couple dozen courses of dessert stomping out every burgeoning society in the Global South looking to free themselves from the yoke. Instead, America wanted to rule the world; and thus, no one has been allowed to disarm.

Because the death cult won't come to its senses.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

It’s for the cameras and their own citizens.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago

This is Sasquatch Timecube territory. Crazy conspiracy theory ranting.