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Worshiping the Grind is Basic (lemmy.ml)

submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Can you please quote where I [made a claim about the USA]?

Smug status quo liberals like you phrase their bad faith questions like that all the time, but just in case you will surprise me, here.

[lots of quotes]

I'm sorry, I don't see where I explicitly mentioned the USA in those quotes.

Was it "A large part of the world's population"? (Note that it doesn't say "the entire world's population".)

You are obnoxiously ignorant of living situations outside of your own to the point that you prescribe maintaining the status quo to people you don't know that don't live anywhere near you do. You made the extraordinary claims, not me.

okay

Again, your ignorance is showing, paired once again with your arrogance.

sure

It is not working for most other people

Again, I never claimed that capitalism is well implemented everywhere. I only claimed that

it can work well without UBI

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I'm sorry

You're not, but you should be.

I assumed bad faith questioning and goalpost moving, and that's exactly what I got from you because your arguments have nothing to stand on. You wanted to narrow in on some pedantic Reddit-tier bullshit because your failure to understand that GDP has massive blindspots as an actual measure of how most people live in any given country.

Again, your arrogance and ignorance (by your own admission) about how other nations are going, all to justify unlivable wages for people doing essential but underpaid and underappreciated jobs, is quite frankly monstrous and you've provided nothing to justify that status quo but your own arrogance and your own ignorance.

You got yours. Congratulations. The status quo isn't supported well by smug arrogant people like you stanning for it with nothing to offer but statements of "I got mine." That's a good thing, because the status quo is shit and is failing far more people in the world right now than it is benefiting.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

goalpost moving [...] is exactly what I got from you

I'm not sure whether you believe to be arguing without moving goalposts. Do you want me to tell you about some goalposts you moved? (E.g. asking me to apply my statements regarding Germany to all countries, including the USA.)

all to justify unlivable wages

Oh, the people in Germany (whom I was talking about all along) are living just fine.

the status quo is shit and failing far more people in the world right now than it is benefiting

Perhaps. Good thing I never claimed the status quo to be successful in all countries.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You're dodging the consequences of your own claims so quickly that all I see is a blur of denial.

You started from a position of arrogance and ignorance. You cited GDP as if billionaires and their ever larger share of the total GDP take don't matter and that poverty in other countries than your own simply can not exist in a way you understand because that shiny GDP number says otherwise.

You said that both increasing wages and any sort of UBI are wrong. You gave no real justification except "you got yours."

Arguing with you further is like wrestling a pig in shit.

Enjoy rolling in the shit and oinking in it. Win a last word game if you must, because there is nothing to your argument but "you got yours" and blatant ignorance about the rest of the world.