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In the US, they're the same. In most countries, a university is a collection of colleges (although most people don't know that).
In countries where universities and colleges are considered separate entities (i.e. most countries), universities are still considered more prestigious, although it's much easier to get a BS/no job degree from an university than a college
Sort of. There are colleges within university in the US too, we just don't usually talk about it
Yep. I was apart of my uni's stem college. I want to say there were probably 5 or 6 colleges in my uni
my major is part of my college's college of the environment. we also have a business college, college of sciences, college of linguistics, etc.
In the US, a University is usually a collection of colleges. Each college has a somewhat independent structure from other colleges within the University, and each is led by its own Dean. Each college has different requirements of entry and provide rules for what it takes to get a degree from that college. But ultimately, you get a degree from something like "The University of Whatever, College of Engineering". All the colleges have some certain amount of oversight and guidelines set up by the overall institution.
It can get confusing though because a lot of places that are universities still call themselves "____ College" due to tradition
On top of that, I've mostly heard of the "colleges" referred to as "departments" here in the US. I.e. "I had to visit the math dept. dean to discuss the unfair treatment I was receiving from my Calc II professor."
at least at my university, the colleges consist of departments that are generally similar and are part of similar disciplines, then the department will have a list of degrees to choose from.
So for example at my university we have the College of Business & Economics, which consists of these departments: Accounting, Decision Sciences, Economics, Finance and Marketing, Management, Master of Business Administration, and Executive Education. And then if you for example check out the Accounting Department, they offer the Bachelor of Arts in Accounting, the Bachelor of Arts in Accounting/Economics, and then a Bachelor of Science in Accounting.
For your example, the math department here offers a bunch of degrees I won't list, and then they're part of the College of Science & Engineering.
In Australia "college" can mean two different things.
It can be another word for high school, especially for exclusive, elite private schools. (For example: Brisbane Boys' College.)
It can be a term for a particular type of residence within a university, especially one that provides more than just a room, but also meals and social activities. (For example, Emmanuel College UQ.)
Historically, it also had at least one other meaning. Among boomer teachers I know, I've heard talk of having gone to "teacher's college". So I think it used to be a sort of more specialised educational institution with a narrower focus than a university. But these don't exist anymore, to my knowledge.
Heh. I went to BBC.
Are you sure?
I've always thought of universities as educational institutions funded (in part) by the state. So, tuition for "The University of Colorado" is partially subsided by the taxes people pay to the state of Colorado.
Colleges are not funded by the state, therefore have a higher tuition than universities.
At least that's the theory. However, both universities and colleges have become so profit focused, I don't know how much cheaper universities are now-a-days.
I'd also argue that a university in the U.S. is more prestigious than many colleges (the exception being Ivy league schools), because universities being cheaper means a high demand for being accepted, which means applicant need "be better" to gain admittance.
In the job market, however, you are absolutely right: college VS university - it doesn't matter.
Universities can be public or private. They are simply a collection of colleges. An example of a single college that is not part of a university would be a community college.
As for which is more prestigious, most colleges not part of a university generally only offer Associate's degrees with some offering Bachelor's degrees. Universities offer those along with graduate level degrees. You are correct that universities tend to be tougher to get into.
Past your first job, nobody really gives a shit where you went.
In the US there’s really no set differentiation. There’s no rules that colleges have to be private or universities have to be public. Harvard is a college (undergrad) and a university, neither are funded by the state.
The general way it works is, universities are large, colleges are small… however, there’s even exceptions to that, if I remember right there’s a university in Alaska that only enrolls like 300 people. A lot of colleges in my state are state funded because they are 2 year community colleges. A lot of our universities have 4 year liberal arts colleges at them.
As someone who lives in the US, that is not true. All universities are colleges, but not all colleges are universities. A community college is not a university.
But in the US, colloquially every 4 year school is a college. People say “I’m going to college.” People don’t say “I’m going to university.”
I've never referred to my university as a college.
I attended a two year community college, which I always referred to as college, and a four year state university that I always referred to as university. Otherwise, I referred to them by their acronyms, or more loosely as school.
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Sometimes it's not just us Europeans who forget that the USA is a fucking huge place ;)
That is not true at all.
It is true in my country (India), and, considering that we borrowed this system from the British, true in many other countries as well.
For example, University College London and King's College London are part of the University of London.
The autonomy enjoyed by the colleges within a university would vary from uni to uni, and sometimes even from college to college within the same university. Generally, at least the 'higher' degrees are given in the name of the University.
Some universities have centrally run departments, and these are usually more prestigious than the constituent colleges. Others are purely affiliating unis and only perform administrative duties.