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I'm interested in how Americans pronouncebourgeois.
as long as the French get offended by the pronunciation, then it's pronounced correctly in American
We just say bourgeois
Burgers
Boogers please. We ain't no uppity frogs.
"job creators"
I'm actually something of a job creator myself. Last week at the grocery store I didn't return my cart to the coral. They had to pay someone to go out and bring it in!
I personally pronounce it fahrenheit
Boo shwa zee
Lol Idk I'm not a linguist, me probably from hearing it pronounced that way in media.
"DOWN WITH THE BOURGEOISIE!"
Seems like it comes from the French pronunciation? Idk man
Those are two different words. Bourgeois is an adjective describing the materialist characteristic of the middle class. The bourgeoisie is the materialistic middle class itself.
Ah I misread then lol
Boosh-E is probably more accurate then?
Or booshjie lol
"Fires two random arrows, both to the linguist's heart. Imagine if he tried!"
For fucks sake we say boozhwah or boojee.
Lmfao
My man
I pronounce it bore-zhwah. Is that wrong?
Feel like that's as correct as we can get, as Americans.
French pronounce the "ou" as is "tour". But you do you.
Tour as in tu- er or tore? I've heard it pronounced both ways here in the states
Whoa what? I've never heard anyone pronounce tour as tu-er. At that point you might as well slap an umlaut on that bad boy
Bore rhymes with tour.. no?
Bore rhymes with tore. Tour is closer to sewer
I've never heard anyone pronounce "tour" as rhymes with "sewer" in English. Perhaps in other languages?
Closer to sewer, or "doer" or "fewer". Compress it to one syllable. Think "ooh" not "ohh".
I'm not... correcting you, I'm just explaining that I never hear anyone pronouncing tour such that it rhymes with either pronunciation of sewer.
You said you'd never heard it that way, I just wanted to clarify that I communicated the right pronunciation since "sewer" is a bit more drawn out than I meant to imply. All good
Sorry, I was a little defensive because some others seemed to think I was arguing with you. Your explanation made sense, though.
Maybe you're pronouncing sewer in thinking of a person who sews instead of sewer as in waste drainage.
Drainage system = soo-er
Person who sews = soh-er
Exploring a place, with or without a guide = tohr
That's typically how I hear those pronounced. Idk, I get the sense that some think I'm trying to correct the OP when I'm just trying to figure out how the hell something is pronounced.
Nah don't get it wrong I get shit because I say tour instead of tore. Poem instead of pOh-ehm. Theatre instead of thee-ate-err
In most American dialects and some British dialects, "bore" and "tour" rhyme (called the "pour-poor merger"). But in some dialects it may rhyme with "sewer"/"two-er" or have the same sound as in "blue" or even as in "were".
Aha. See, that explains the disconnect. Thank you.
A more aggressively American pronunciation would be bore-ge-oh-is.
Borzshwah
'Boojz wah', or if I'm feeling silly bourguignon. But I'd probably be more likely to use 'middle class' instead of the French.
Different ways, I usually say boo-jwah, bur-jwah is also one I've heard though.
Bourxjeauxaseaux
I and anyone I've heard say the word says it the same as the English pronunciation in this random video I found searching for how to pronounce it. For whatever that small sample size is worth.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3pMOHP3Uu54
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I've heard it with varying degrees of the R sound. There's a common shorthand "bougie" (BOO-zhee) that people often hear before learning the original term, so they'll maintain the pronunciation into BOO-zhwa.
Sometimes the R is slightly swallowed so it sounds more like BOH-zhwa, maybe very light throat vocalization. Or people skip over it and it's buh-ZHWA. Some commit fully for BOR-zhwa.
Universally seems to maintain (my non-native understanding of) the French "oi" and silent S.
I have yet to hear anyone pronounce it correctly: bor-gee-oice.
Beurj-wah