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The protocol is built from the same digital DNA as the Tor browser and the chat app Signal and will be used to create new ways for folks to communicate, share files, and generally surf the web while simultaneously protecting their privacy.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Feeling old today?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Certainly takes me back a while!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I am always skeptical when new encryption protocols are announced. We already have quite a few properly reviewed and proven ones. Any new one has to stand all those tests first before it can be considered secure.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If it is based on Tor and Signal its not "new" and its probably a bad tech writer not understanding the details.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If a new protocol is based on Tor and Signal, it's still a new protocol. If they don't use the existing protocols unmodified, they might break crucial parts in the larger security model.

Edit: even the website states

Veilid is a new, distributed communication protocol developed by Cult of the Dead

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It sounds like it's a new app using existing encryption.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That doesn't say anything. I can tell you "I am using AES256" which is a proven cipher, but I can use it totally wrong, by using an inadequate block mode or not initializing it correctly. Or by using shitty keys, inadequate pseudo-random sources, etc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

And you can leak metadata left and right, while having the actual message encrypted.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

This news makes it sound like theres no encrypted messaging protocols around. I wish it was more clear what is special about this one. Is it the integration of onion routing and end to end encryption into one protocol?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Wow, I had no idea they are still around

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That's a blast from the past haha. People were still using ICQ Messenger back then and MSN Messenger

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Sounds great, the more options users have the better, I say!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago

I haven't heard that name in a long time.

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