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Do any of them know what the word "liberal" actually means?

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[-] [email protected] 56 points 1 month ago

Do you know what the word 'liberal' actually means

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It has 2 common definitions:

  1. Neo-liberal: a political approach that favors free-market capitalism, deregulation, and reduction in government spending
  2. Leftism in general.

You're almost never going to hear the right-wing use #1. Authoritarian communists will use #1 as a catch-all for modern capitalism.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago

The US is such a right wing country that liberals are the mainstream left. In Europe, liberals are centrists and they aren't further to the right than American libs.

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

It's extremely frustrating hearing this repeated so often here.

It's fine if this is the colloquial definition you're used to hearing and using, but this is certainly not the way it's used outside of American politics and pretending like it's the only use comes off as both ill-informed and condescending.

When used derisively from the left, rest assured it is not referring to either of your adopted generalizations but a very specific ideology.

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[-] [email protected] 52 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm on the left, but I'm far from a communist, much less an authoritarian one, and I 100% use lib or liberal as an insult. I think to most people younger than 50, Liberal refers to a certain type of Democratic voter. They'll hang a BLM sign in their window but support NIMBY policies that keep people of color out of their neighborhoods. They'll talk a good game about labor rights and unions, but still go to Starbucks and throw a shit-fit if their order is wrong. They cared very deeply about Iraq and Guantanamo when Bush was President, but stopped bringing it up once Obama was in office.

The Third Way Democrats of the 90s basically turned American Liberals into Neo-Liberals. I will still support them when I have to, since they hold all the levers of power over the only ostensibly progressive party in America, and not siding with them at this point basically ensures the rise of fascism, but I have no love for Liberals.

[-] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago

don't usually agree on that much

Where have you been the last 8 years

[-] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago

Yeah Tankies/AuthComs are just such an odd mixture of accelerationists, "own the libs" and just general stupidity of "a strong man makes strong men" bullshit that they support any fascist if it means maybe someday they might not be on the chopping block.

If Tankies were an actual voting bloc they'd be somewhat impactful for the first time since maybe 1949. That would imply going outside however.

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[-] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago

You can tell this was made by a salty neo lib

[-] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's really funny how no one really likes liberals but liberals.

Conservatives: "They're too freedom loving for my tastes! Why can't they just stay and home and be good corporate stooges like us?"

Auth-Communists: "They claim to like freedom but still willingly use the capitalist forces to oppress who they like. Liberals are okay with personal freedom until it impacts the white moderates. ~~That's our job!~~"

Anarchists: "It's literally weird to call yourself a liberal when all they do is oppose any movement against the status quo. If they can't convert them to sell away their soul to the state or capitalism, they're terrorists. They're more like conservatives than any actual progressives, and even progressives admit 100% capitalism isn't great."

Libertarian capitalists: "They claim to be for freedom but constantly require the state to check in on if people are enjoying their freedom like that Nanny's they never had. I just wanna grill for god's sake!"

Like it's just funny to me no matter where you are on the political spectrum, you have a somewhat decent reason to hate liberals (except conservatives are too stupid to tell liberals apart from "commies").

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

"My party is committing genocide and lost all of its credibility and ethos. Boo hoo."

At least they aren't using the word "progressive" anymore.

[-] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago

Yes, leftists absolutely know what the word "liberal" means. It refers to a pro-Capitalist ideology centered around the idea of individual freedoms via private property rights.

Leftists disagree that allowing private property creates a freer population, and understand that Liberalism is the dominant ideology in developed Capitalist nations.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago

Software developers are staying silent on this one.

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

I am the only true leftist. The rest of you are posers and/or feds.

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[-] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago

Republicans are also liberals. At least in the true sense of the word. So it's low-key funny when they use the term liberal as an insult.

I myself am not a liberal. Fiscally at least. Socially I'm a progressive.

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[-] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

Lmao check out all the salty libs seeing themselves get called out in these comments.

  • sincerely, an anarcho-syndicalist
[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Pretty much. "Lol why don't you like libs?"

...cause we don't like things the way they are, and the only goal of the libs appears to be prevent any sort of progress. Maybe we are allowed relief from existing problems, but fuck you if you wanna fix em!

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[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

They agree on a lot more than you'd think, once you parse out each cult's different groupspeak

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[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

I will not stand for this anarchist erasure

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

Almost like AuthComs are authoritarian before they are communist, and thus have more in common with the American Fascist Party than any actual leftists.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

I'd say they both agree on the main point of both philosophies "everyone has to follow every ridiculous rule I come up with except me"

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Conservatives, fascists, and Auth-Communists just disagree on what color the flag should be, and the name of the party in charge handing out the police to dispatch onto the people.

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Tell me you don’t hang out with anarchists without telling me…

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There's only one axis on the political spectrum, and everyone left of Biden (a rightwinger) is a tankie, isn't this obvious?

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Or marxists even lol

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

wait until you learn about fiscally liberal vs socially liberal.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

I use lib for shared objects.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I used to think it just was synonymous with the left, but I've recently been seeing a lot of comments on Lemmy saying liberals aren't leftist so now I am not sure if it means anything or if those Lemmings are just dumb.

I've grown up with the term "bleeding heart liberals" being applied to groups like Green Peace and hippies that promote love and unity by people who are just complete pieces of shit, and in that context I was always like "I guess I'm a liberal 🤷🏻‍♂️"

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I 'am' an anarcho-communist and I don't like libtards. Libtards to me are 'progressive capitalists' that have no systemic insight what so ever and think all it takes to bring upon heaven on earth is to try and be nice.

I mean, you should try and be nice obviously but you are not going to soy latte your way outta this my dudes.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

I don’t like libtards.

You can just call them liberals. You don't need to meld the term to a slur.

I mean, you should try and be nice obviously

By shaving the first two letters off an r-bomb? Come on, guy. I get what you're saying, but this is an awful way to phrase it.

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[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

Friend I'm not a friend of liberals myself but can we please not use ableistic terms that end with "-tard"?

Reserve that shit for the right wing

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Lib bashing in left spaces is the mating cry of the tanky

It might be cathartic every so often, but too much makes the wrong people feel safe.

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleed...

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

"Liberalism is the ideology of capitalism, free markets, representative democracy, legal rights and state monopoly on violence. It includes a large portion of the present day political spectrum, from the centre-left social democrats to the far-right conservatives and American libertarians."

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