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Naming is hard (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 2 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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[-] [email protected] 93 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Outlook

Outlook (New)

Outlook (Newer)

Outlook (Newest)

Outlook (Newest final)

Outlook (Newest final V2)

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

Outlook (fuck, we screwed up, please disregard the previous one)

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

What do they do? Fire all the seniors every three years and just start over with recent college grads? (No offense intended to the newer folks)

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

That's literally how the software industry works.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Many places I worked the recent college grads were paid as much as (or more than) the senior developers, so this strategy didn't work. They still did it, though.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

umm yes, actually.

[-] [email protected] 61 points 2 weeks ago

clicks new

"Sorry, I don't know how to open an email file."

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

".eml is a format for e-machine learning"

[-] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago

"By the way, have you tried Edge? We've switched it to be your default browser not just in your operating system, but in Teams and Outlook too! You're welcome."

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago
[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Never obsolete!

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

They somehow got the message and actually implemented that it can *checks notes* open emails.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago
[-] [email protected] 31 points 2 weeks ago

Working in IT Support, the fact that Outlook refers to webmail and two distinct email clients makes understanding user’s problems a nightmare.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

From my experience, Microsoft has generally the worst web developers it seems. It's not only the naming, but a lot of their websites work horrible. Teams never even worked in Firefox, say whut?

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

I think it sort of worked on firefox for a spell a while back but screen sharing and other stuff was broken. Then I think it stopped entirely and showed a "use edge" callout.

I switched to the electron client they provided and it used to work pretty ok for years but recently they anounced they were killing it on linux for some reason (to be fair there were no updates I could discern for months).

They now ignore linux entirely in the desktop clients section and redirect to a qr code to download the android app if you go to a download page on a linux machine.

I have chromium just to be able to get on a call if needed.

There is now "Teams Classic" and "New Teams" as well.

All this to say, yes. MS enshitification is real. Sorry I know you did not sign up to get this wall of text.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Years ago I got a copy of MSDN which had apparently been put together by developers who all had giant monitors. On a normal laptop screen none of the text wrapped properly so every article had a horizontal scrollbar which you had to work left and right to read every fucking line. I eventually had to start copying the contents into a Notepad instance just to be able to read the damn things normally.

This is why I think developers should always have to work on 10-year-old laptops with 800x600 screens.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

I tried new outlook once and it was such a fucking disaster I'm still shaking from it 6 months later. It was also a giant pain to go back to classic.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

It didn't last one afternoon on my work laptop. I went to save an attachment from a vendor and couldn't pick the folder it saved to. They literally got rid of SAVE AS.

Fuck Microsoft.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

I've witnessed similar corporate screwups from the inside, I know the greed and political games and misaligned incentives that allow for such an obviously and catastrophically badly scoped project to be pushed dead-on-arrival in production, against the advice of literally anyone with a pair of eyes and literally any honesty.

Intellectually, I understand. Yet my heart doesn't, because it refuses to believe the sheer amount of collective stupidity and outright malice at every level of management, consistently for years on end, required to achieve these outcomes. How anyone can sleep at night with "Product Manager for New Outlook" on their resume is beyond me.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

They also ditched PST file support.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

I guess they don’t git it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

I don't understand why they don't just put "My" on it: MyMail, MyOutlook etc.

this post was submitted on 08 Jun 2024
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