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[-] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago

I have never used the Steam beta or Proton-GE or whatever information is spreading out there to noobs about what they should do, and I've been gaming exclusively on Linux for more than 20 years. Only do this beta or bleeding edge stuff if you have a problem, and a good reason to believe that will help (like people reporting your specific issue is fixed in beta). Or I guess if you're bored out of your mind. And expect other issues since it's fucking beta.

[-] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago

Proton GE is pretty standard and actually a necessity to play many games like fallout 76 on steam

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

You don’t need Proton-GE for Fallout 76, even.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

You do or it crashes on launch

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I had no issues when I ran it. Besides, it’s marked Playable by Valve (for all that’s worth), and ProtonDB seems to agree.

Maybe they fixed it?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Must have been very recent because it was like that for a few years and including when I last played 1-2 months ago. Protondb advice was use GE proton

[-] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago

ProtonGE has fixes that Proton can't have for legal reasons, so it's good to use it.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

What fixes? Why can't Proton have them but GE can?

[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago

Proprietary codecs for example, which is why some cutscenes in Proton are shown as a color test screen, those are fixed on GE.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If GE received a Cease and Desist, that would be frustrating, but linux gaming would go on. If Proton got a Cease and Desist, that could be catastrophic to linux gaming. Valve could even theoretically get banned from working on linux gaming (like the Yuzu devs got banned from working on emulation). It's just not worth the risk for compatibility/performance for a smaller proportion of games.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Hopefully any legal updates can get up-streamed. I'm not interested in proprietary codecs anyway.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Well, sometimes Windows games depend on propietary codecs, and until Valve can get the devs to make adjustments so the codecs aren't needed, the games aren't going to work properly in regular Proton.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

If there is a free codec alternative I assume they can use that when the game calls for that codec? Perhaps I don't know enough that that's harder than replacing DirectX calls with Vulkan.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

The issue is one of licensing, not technology. There's all kinds of patents in the space, and using free codecs could still infringe them. DirectX doesn't have the same patent protection. I believe in theory you could make a fully open source Linux native version of DirectX.

For more info from someone who knows more than me, see here.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

I needed Proton GE to play The Witcher 3, which was released in 2015.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

This seems to work with regular Proton these days, it's even SteamDeck verified.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Well, it doesn't launch on my machine unless I'm using Proton GE. I have tried regular Proton.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I think this is an issue in using the updated version with the graphics overhaul. You can change that in the launcher. But if you found Something that works then you rock it.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

what's the point of Proton-GE ? i've never head of it before

[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

One thing often useful (particularly for older games) is support for more video codecs. Due to licensing, valves proton supports less video codecs, which can sometimes cause cutscenes to be played as test-images instead.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

GloriousEggroll among a few others, and Valve of course, are the main reasons Linux gaming is now effectively solved (aside from anti-cheats where there’s nothing to do if some developers don't want to support Linux).

I haven’t yet watched the video, but I agree I’ve not needed to use Steam beta at all. While it’s around 70% of tracked games being labeled Gold or higher on protondb, I have found that with proton-ge, 100% of the games I’ve tried have worked without issue (on the order of 30ish games thus far).

I won’t be going back to Windows, ever. So it kinda stinks that some devs just won’t support Linux for anti-cheat (like Lost Ark, etc). But it’s a price I’m willing to pay to not be spied on.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago

That guy's channel got blessed by the algorithm, got it recommended yesterday as well.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Cool video, but sometimes... people should wait a bit before giving advice.

Really cool experience report, but advising stuff like hunting for .deb's on the Internet is just not good.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

That thumbnail makes it look like you're about to lean forward and take a bite out of your microphone.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

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Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Just watched your video on video editing/creation on linux earlier today, great watch

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Great advice!

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