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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm guessing there's a bit of source bias here. I'll buy that Windows won't be dominant in 10 years, but defaulting to Apple doesn't seem backed by the data presented.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah, as the gap between paid OS and free ones narrows, we see the free ones in use in more and more contexts.

Cloud and phone went first, now it's finally the year of the Linux desktop, again.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yea, most enterprises that I know of are looking at VDI. I don't think Apple has made any effort in that area?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Apple won't dominate the corporate space because then they would have to support the corporate space. They know if they do that their products will be common, and they couldn't charge the premium they do. Then the people that demand corporate support their Apple products wouldn't be rebels sticking it to The Man. Would doctors and C-Level wannabes really feel special if they didn't have to throw their weight around to get IT to accept Macs? If that common, dirty, IT troll just sauntered up from the basement with a fully supported Macbook Air ready to go, it would take all the "I feel SPECIAL" out of the experience. And that is what Mac users pay for.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is that how apple users see themselves?

I've always seen them as gullible hipsters paying more than they need to because of the logo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I think Apple users typically fall into one of a few different categories:

  1. "I'm a creative/visionary"
  2. "I don't really understand computers"
  3. "I need a native Unix command line"
[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I read this article 20 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Good news! Save it for 20 years and read it again! 😁

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It’s got the same energy as the “year of the Linux desktop” meme. I think that the mobile space will be Apple-dominated first, then laptops will come later as the PC market naturally shrinks and starves off less-profitable players à la the current tablet market.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah. It was embarrassing all those years we declared it the year of the Linux desktop, before. I'm glad we finally got there this year!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Unless Apple drops the price of their devices by at least a third, it's not really going to happen.

Another thing to consider is that Jamf will certainly not be dominating the Apple MDM management solution arena in a decade either.

Companies with a mostly win estate with win infra, aren't happy with paying another $40 per user, per year for Jamf and Intune will be making up a lot of ground for a one shop solution, even if management is not as featured or complex as what Jamf offers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would love to use Linux on my work PC but our IT is too lazy to figure out how to put their corporate spyware on it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I used Linux for my work PC for a year and had endless problems. If it was my personal pc that would be fine but I was wasting time that I should have been using to complete my work, instead spending that time debugging constantly changing problems

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So your spare time is worth less than your working time? I feel the opposite way.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Ssshh. Let's not give away that little hint - there may be bosses present.

I learned Linux on the boss' dime and it created tons of career opportunities.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Mine has been super smooth as a workstation for 7 years. But I think that is the fragmentation issue with Linux. I chose a distro based off of a corporate one and random dude uses Hannah Montana Linux expecting same results.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Funny, that's my daily experience using corporate windows boxes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I think you're born either able to use Linux trouble free or able to use Windows trouble free

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

My work uses a mix of Microsoft Office and LibreOffice on our machines. I doubt the latter will become an industry standard anytime soon, but I was honestly surprised to see them using it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

With the push to SaaS for so many enterprise apps you have a lot less lock in for windows as an OS.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is happening in my workplace. Almost all new hires request a Mac over windows

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Would Linux not be a better call? Both upfront and maintenance cost would be much lower without question.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

In practice not really. Linux is great on servers or specialized workstations, but for general end users it just doesn’t work out. I could get into why, but it essentially boils down to support and compatibility.

I migrated our company from Windows to RedHat and Macs, but I wouldn’t put macOS on a server* nor would I put RHEL on a sales guy’s laptop.

*except things like build servers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Annecodotally I have run it for 7 years including high end CAD. it has been much more stable and predictable than Windows.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn't a RHEL or similar distro which offers enterprise support be a good solution? Also, tech folks are very comfy on Linux as it's how the internet basically operates. A distro with enterprise support and fully functional GUI that's similar to windows seems like a solid solution to move from windows. What makes you hesitant to run RHEL on a sale employees computer?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

When your app vendors write their apps for Windows, no. You could try moving everything in Citrix or VDI, but then you're still running Windows and doing it with more costs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Wine would allow for windows software to run on Linux. This would add additional potential software problems, but you wouldn't need help from only Apple to fix em.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Unlikely....MS Office is still the default for many enterprises today. 365 Office online version is not convenient. OSX version is deliberately made worse to entice people to use Windows

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Microsoft has done an excellent job achieving parity between Mac and Windows by making the Windows version worse, as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I just want you to know this brightened my day with a sensible chuckle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Google Docs is fast becoming the standard office suite in a lot of organizations.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Maybe for newer organisations.

But not for large oranisations. And when some jobs depend on creating the shiniest powerpoint presentation in the world, MS Office is unlikely to go away for now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Not even Office anymore, theyve got multiple levels of ERP systems linked in a with Azure resources for doing lots of core business functionality and automation which is becoming more and more a requirement, i.e. if your business can't send/receive EDI you can't sell to most major stores like Walmart/Kroger/etc.