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Apk Link: https://cdn.organicmaps.app/apk/OrganicMaps-24081605-GooglePlay.apk

Note: If you don't want to deal with stuff like this, I recommend you download and use it from F-Droid client or Accrescent AppStore.

Update: The app returned to the App Store.

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[–] [email protected] 243 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

It's Google.

I'm certain that "Common violations" = "competes with our own products".

[–] [email protected] 126 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It's highly unlikely that this app even comes up on the radar insofar as competing with Google Maps.

The answer is probably more mundane - an automated system made an incorrect call. It keeps happening when it comes to these Play Store app reviews.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Or some troll decided it would be funny to report it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

Most likely scenario in my opinion too.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

Indeed. "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"—or, in this case, an unaudited automated process. Now, I'm sure the fact that it competes with one of their products meant that they were in no particular hurry to address the issue, but I'm sure the original failure was process related, not anti-competitive practices.

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[–] [email protected] 187 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Hmm.

Never really looked into it before.

Now I downloaded it.

Google's strategy seems to have backfired, in my case.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

technically true but the original Streisand effect was about an image that had been downloaded six times before the lawsuit; Organic Maps is definitely a lot less obscure than that

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The amount of corporate control that has slowly and insidiously crept into our lives will never cease to amaze me.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Capitalism baby. Gotta cannibalize, monopolize, and enshittifize for maximum profits.

giggles in F-Droid

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yet another reminder that Google is an unreliable company. Install Fdroid tonavoid Google's mistakes.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If this story blows up, organic maps is going to get so many more downloads and hopefully contributions.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I have been eyeing this crowd sourced map thing for a week or two. When I read this headline today I learned there was a centralized app for it. I immediately downloaded it.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Hopium question: Can Google be sued for this as anti-competitive behavior and fined for "lost revenue"?

[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

In theory yes. In practice or will require enormous resources to build a case against the army of layers that Google and the other giants can afford. I believe only the government now is big enough to do it, with the antitrust law.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Which I'm pretty sure they're already gunning for Google, so this might be more evidence for their case.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

When listing an app on the app store, there is a footgun to watch out for. One of the questions it asks is "Is this app made for children" or "is this app intended for children" or something like that. If you say "yes" to this then that triggers extra stringent evaluation criteria. Many people will accidentally choose yes for their app because it's a general purpose app which anyone can use (no porn, violence, etc) but that is a mistake. The intent of that question is to find apps that are ONLY for children to use and to evaluate them differently in order to keep children safe.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, I was looking into this recently, and even games like Roblox are labelled Teen (even though I think it's obvious they target younger children).

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

Roblox would never pass a child review. There's literal gambling on that shit.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thank you, Google. Now I'm using it and contributing to OpenStreetMap :D

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks again google. I had never heard of this app until you banned it. Now I'm running it on my phone. Top notch advertising for your competition.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago

Same, downloaded it and gee it's so much better

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

This is insane. What on earth could possibly constitute adult content on a navigation app? Are they going to start age-gating points of interest, like, if the destination address is a strip club in Virginia you have verify?

Edit: looks like it was added back. maybe just a mistake? https://fosstodon.org/@organicmaps/112982935184446753

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

This app is great. If it offered some sort of traffic aware navigation routing I would use it as my daily driver. I live in the city and traffic conditions can make a huge difference. Unfortunately, I don't think it has this capability. Hopefully someday.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

The problem with live traffic awareness is, that it needs a lot of data to be collected all the time, something only Google or Apple with their monopolistic and privacy invasive ppwer can do. How it works (simplified) is that Google can detect if a lot of phones are on the same street and therefore assumes traffic. This data is, however, proprietary to Google. A FOSS App has the following problems:

  • Too small of a userbase, to reliably track something
  • Privacy conscious userbase, not wanting to be tracked
  • If it had auch a feature, it would be opt-in, as FOSS does (usually) not try to be as evil as Google&Co.
  • Usually limited server capacity to calculate if an aggregation is traffic

Solutions would be:

  • Google is forced to make the data publicly available per API as part of some anti-monopolistic ruling
  • A thrid party (e.g. cities) have their own monitoring of traffic and give public access to it.

So sadly similar dunctionality will not come in the near future in any FOSS app.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well glad this article brought my attention to this app. Now I can download it and remove google maps from my devices

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago

It is also a direct replacement for MAPS.ME.

MAPS.ME got progressively crappified, and Organic Maps is from the original creators of MAPS.ME

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago

Thx for.the post. Just installed via fdroid. Awesome app.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago

I keep forgetting to update OM. Thanks for the reminder lol

Google can suck a tailpipe. Fdroid ftw

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Haven't heard of Organic Maps before but I just installed from the apple app store for solidarity 🫡

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

So, what about OSMand. Or Magic Earth. Or any other map app?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They're not "good enough" - they dont provide the same comfy UI/UX that google maps and organic maps does. And organic maps is offline, so literally no data harvesting.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Support your favorite Map App: Donate!

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

STOP THE WAR ON COMFY SOFTWARE!!!!!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

TIL, I never knew this existed. Currently downloading it. Any other suggestions for someone in iOS (openmaps related)?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think this was malicious, these app reviews are being done by an overworked and underpaid employee in some third world country. Mistakes are made all the time.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

Also a thread here.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Long shot, but does anyone know of any mapping app where you can easily project a bearing/azimuth line, or a point a given bearing and distance from another point?

The only app I've found so far that can come close to what I need is Backcountry Navigator, which has a terrible UI. Everything else seems to be focused entirely on GPS navigation from where you are now to a known destination; I have yet to find one that allows even basic triangulation, to be able to identify the location of an observed object.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

ATAK-Civ originally developed by the U.S. Military for tactical use on Android phones. It was open-sourced and released on the Play Store several years ago.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hmmmm. Just when I posted about Organic Maps on Lemmy. Coincidence?

[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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