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I miss it so bad. I try to make Mastadon work but it just doesn't without the people I want to hear from. Just having bots echo what those accounts say along with the lack of interaction makes it less fun.
this post was submitted on 17 Aug 2023
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I've just learned to follow smaller accounts with similar interest. As a celebrity follow machine, it's awful because nobody is really on there officially except for a handful of people.
Hashtags are much more important on Masto too cause without an algorithm, its one of the only ways your posts are visible to others. I find with the right combo of tags though, I can get a decent amount of interaction.
There was a good solid week where most of my attention was focused on Mastodon. I guess it all depends on what you were originally using twitter for. I guess it clicked for me cause I barely used twitter to begin with.
hashtag are much more important on Masto
And this is why the First Twitter Exodus was so miserable. Back then following tags or searching tags was a part of the interface but didn't work.
Maybe try just browsing the local feed or looking up hashtags of things you like, might help you find new people
Maybe a monthly/quarterly coordinated push to get people to migrate would be more effective at making it push through, rather than tiny blips of "Hey, maybe Mastodon?" on occasion.
And then whenever people inevitably try it and decide not to stay, as I did, make sure to pick up on any feedback and take it seriously. Maybe after a year it'll be a genuinely desirable alternative.
I personally think it's a messy pile of junk.
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I could also call it the "Linux struggle"
"Windows and Microsoft spy on you, it breaks, it's heavy, its hardware requirements are too hard, windows updates...
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you could try Linux, you can even game on it nowadays.
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naaah it's too complicated. Anyway, gotta edit the registry to disable a feature"
:(
It IS too complicated tho. I consider myself pretty techy, but my Linux experience, just trying to do basic things like downloading a program, became a long chain of troubleshooting and installations of dependecies and searching online for answers.
Sadly, it got me REAL turned off Linux. I love the concept of it, but at the end of the day, I just want something that works.
just trying to do basic things like downloading a program, became a long chain of troubleshooting and installations of dependecies and searching online
Why, are you using Gentoo?
Package management is by far one of the easiest things on Linux, especially with Flatpak, even easier than on Windows that, for comparison, got a package manager only recently and it's still barebones af
As a long time Linux user, I was amazed when the entire tech industry "invented" package management a couple of decades after Linux. Did you know Apple invented the idea of being able to install an app and all its dependencies, signed by a central authority? So much easier than any other OS before it!
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I've been using a Mac since 1991, so to say I'm invested in a particular OS already would be an understatement. That said, I've also tried Linux many times, and in the long run I've abandoned each of those for ridiculously simply things I think it should be able to do that will take me more time than I'm willing to lose to get that simple thing to work. I -work in IT- and I still don't want to sped my off-time troubleshooting problems. Learning, yes. Fixing, not so much.
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Honestly, People on lemmy are outlandishly pro Linux. I will say that the primary thing that people use, Twitter, Reddit, windows, ends up working a lot better than the alternatives. I love my instance but it's downtime is like 1 nines at this point. If that. I dedicate time to check out Linux distros every year since 2012 when it stopped being my daily driver and constantly hit problems that I just do not want to deal with.
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I think it just shows how weak willed and lacking in self control people are.
I mean for people who aren't influencers it doesn't make much sense. For influencers, even though some people hate twitter or whatever its called now it is the place with one of the largest presences/userbases around. Many influencers use that to their advantage to grow their own userbase. Some influencers can move over and maybe convert some of their audiences over but realistically you need a very big player to do it beforehand.
As a former redditor, fair.
With twitter in particular, I really really don't get how any leftists are still on there. Its like, beguiling.
Honestly, if you are any kind of a progressive or leftist or just don't identify as a rightwing piece of shit, and are still on twitter once Elon took it over, you might be a part of the problem.
I know its an extreme take, but I'm like, fresh out of fucks.
Like I'm forgiving of artists because most of their customer base is there, and internationally, alt platforms are even more unknown. I am somewhat forgiving of journalists who want to reach the widest amount of people possible, despite the fact that Musk has been intentionally targeting and censoring journalists he doesn't like.
I really don't get a lot of leftist or liberal content creators though. Many constantly push the message that you vote with your wallet, and discourage patronizing businesses, services, or franchises that actively hate or harm marginalized people. Yet at the same time, they are using a platform owned by some who is literally trying to make the platform as hostile to marginalized people as possible. A lot of users have left twitter because they no longer feel safe using the platform. In fact, the reason you see a lot of queer people here on fediverse is because many of them are twitter refugees.
And yet many leftist and liberal creators remain on twitter, exclusively in fact. I could understand it if they pushed some content to alts to keep within reach of users that left while still maintaining their fanbase on twitter, but many of them won't even touch any of the alternatives, much less make themselves more reachable on youtube or other social platforms. By remaining on twitter, they are encouraging their userbase to remain as well, which creates engagement, which benefits ad companies who pay Musk, who funnels that into groups and causes that undermine their audience.
At this point, It is an integrity test for me. How large is this creator's following on twitter? How often does this person post and interact on twitter? and What have they said in the past about interacting with harmful brands? What's their excuse for remaining if any, and would they had accepted that excuse if the shoe was on the other foot?
I accept some people have an addiction, and as someone who tried to leave reddit many times, I know it can be a hard one to kick. But if your brand is built on integrity, standing up for the marginalized, and being ethical with your consumption habbits, remaining active on twitter is not a good look to me.
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When people dont wanna switch to madtodon because its another app and too lazy to set it up but everyone suddenly starts using threads when facebook releases it.
It's a lot easier when it's a seamless transition vs a new platform. Also, it seems like the usage took a nosedive.
I'm glad it did. Imagine: People keep complaining about Xitter, refuse to use Mastodon, then suddenly all migrate to Meta because new platform hype. This almost actually happened and I think the only reasons it didn't is that Threads is inaccessible in Europe and from what I've heard the app was crap.
Too many people are just so basic they won't even consider trying anything but "mainstream". If Lemmy or Mastodon became mainstream platforms, you can bet they would come in masses because "there's where everyone's at."
It truly baffles me that anyone at all is still on the platform formerly known as twitter at this point.
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I'd be down to use Mastodon but no one I know uses it so there's nothing to do. Pain.
Do what I did, make some new friends on mastodon. Theres a ton of great people on there :3
For real. I hang out with my friends IRL, I don't need to follow them online. I'm on Mastodon to get what they can't offer (all my friends are idiots).
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Tf is firefish?
Formerly known as Calckey. Twitter replacement similarly to Mastodon. Also uses ActivityPub.
Using it rn, it's forked from Misskey and is in alpha rn
It feels like mastodon but they sprinkled in a few telegram features tbh.
Much better than mastodon in terms of user experience tho
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Or like all the youtubers making bank by complaining about youtube.
Really, I'm still on Twitter because I follow a lot of my favorite artists there, and they sure don't have Mastodon.
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Curiosity, what is Bluesky? Never heard of it.
Jack Dorsey's new project. Essentially a new Twitter.
He should call it Twitter now that the name is available again. Wouldn't that be hilarious if he just made Twitter all over again and everyone on X went back to Twitter?
I know that won't happen but it would be super funny to see how Elon reacts to it.
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It's the fediverse Lite (doesn't work with ActivityPub, it's its own protocol). It's also Twitter Lite (created by the founder of Twitter, now known as X). It's the worst of both worlds.
A worse version of ActivityPub
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All the idiots are still on shitter and idiots are how influencers make money.
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It's a shame but it's also true none of the options are a real alternative to Twitter. Twitter's main strength comes from the number of creators it has and the discoverability of content for general users. None have succeeded in breaking it.
Discoverability of content above average? On Twitter? An I doing something wrong? The only time I end up on Twitter is when someone links to it. Following or even searching in comments is essentially not possible.
I think it's a great platform for people who like celebrities or talking heads. I don't care about those people so I was more into reddit where it was more like anonymous peers. Lemmy takes the place of reddit super well but I could see why Mastodon doesn't because there are no celebrities or talking heads.
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“youtuber” and “still uses twitter exclusively” hmmmmmmmmmm. lol.
Well it's not like the Youtube comment section is where I would expect anyone to safely interact.
Addiction is a helluva thing
Any change requires inertia
*requires overcoming inertia.
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