The people I know that wish for collapse get real quiet when I loudly say to them so you want your friends children to starve to death? Because I was in a combat zone and that’s what happens.
Fuck those degenerates.
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I always imagine those people have a Hollywood version of a collapse/apocalypse. They think they’re gonna be in the group that always perseveres no matter what
The other day I was talking to a friend who served in Vietnam and he said something kind of along the same lines. "I don't get these people who want to kill other people; their fellow countrymen. I've done it and those guys were trying to kill me but it was bad enough that I don't ever want to do it again."
Personally I've never experienced that. I hope I never do. People that wish for such devastation are extremely ignorant at best and malevolent at worst.
Step 3 is always ??? with this shit. The reality is that radicals need to accept that they're not going to win in their lifetime, and they need to be creating organizations poised to help long term.
But they don't actually want to help long term. They see collapse as a chance to seize power for their own benefit as even the loose control we have to check the power of the powerful is too much for them.
For these turner diary nuts, yeah. I was also including anarchists that see acceleration as the only option here and kind of criticizing my own desire to see a world that respects human rights in my lifetime. Admitting I'll argue and pine for change my whole life and there's no chance to see that change is a tough pill to swallow.
I get it. Part of my job is human rights advocacy. It is highly depressive and is getting to the point where I don't really think we can change things really for the better in at least the next decades. If we had fewer existential threats I would think based on history that the day when we again decide human rights are a good idea would come again. I am purely doing it for the belief that defending human rights even when not changing anything is worth it.
People have no idea what it means. Like no grasp even when stories are everywhere. I'm an aid worker. Focusing on refugees. They can't even imagine what they go through and what the people who never got to me/safety survived until unsurvivable came in front of them.
Get in here y'all, new Right wing villain just dropped!
This is probably his Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheWorthyHouse
This may be his blog: https://theworthyhouse.com/authors/
Their website: https://sacr.us/ (look they even have a completely non-threatening sword! /s)
And they sound just like the Sons of Jacob.
I'm honestly getting real tired of all of these right wing groups running around wishing for the collapse of the country, or worse, actively participating in trying to bring it about, like what is the FBI even doing? Oh that's right they're suppressing investigations into Trump and friends.
But that was long ago, and one thing black people definitely don’t suffer anymore is oppression. Rather, many dish it out, aided by their allies of other races, as seen most dramatically in the terroristic Floyd Riots, but it happens every day in every organization in America. The targets are, most of all, those at the bottom of today’s social hierarchy—heterosexual (that is, normal) white men outside the professional-managerial elite.
from here
ultimately no final question can be solved without conflict, usually involving violence. Thus, his style tends to be megalomaniacal and apocalyptic. He likes to fight.
emphasis mine, from your link
This guy is a kook, and not in a fun way.
No, absolutely not in a fun way, at all.
He likes to fight
How much you want to bet this guy has never been in the military and has probably never been in a fight against a person he wasn't already a bully of? I haven't found much yet on this guys background but the bios he's provided all sound like the type of Chickenhawk rhetoric you constantly see from guys who've never really had a taste of violence not going their way, never had a good solid ass kicking.
I'm a big believer in knowing my enemy and I'd like to know a whole lot more about this fascist piece of shit.
When, around the dinner table, I complain about politics, I often then turn to my 12-year-old twins, and ask “What is the solution?” They chant in unison, “Cleansing Nuclear Fire!” Thus, one of my children got me this desk ornament for Father’s Day:
Well isn't that just solid parenting.
his future as a warlord after the collapse of America
Society for American Civic Renewal
One of these things is not like the other. Freedom is slavery etc etc
Man I'm glad I'm not American, that place is getting closer and closer to Gilead, it's scary.
If the US becomes a fascist state, you won't be safe anywhere on this planet. I wouldn't take any comfort in not being an American.
Yes, I'm hoping pretty hard the transition goes poorly and they're busy with infighting for like a decade afterwards. A Hitler scenario would be damn terrifying.
A Hitler scenario would be damn terrifying.
Fun fact: This guy is from Coeur d'Alene Idaho, which was famously the home of the Aryan Nations group. Probably not a coincidence.
This guy wants society to collapse because he saw Fury Road and thought Immortan Joe was the character he was supposed to emulate.
Just tell him there won't be any electricity or internet or reliable food networks in his fucked up fantasy world to and he'll change his tune pretty quick. Or maybe not. Maybe his desire for a slave harem outweighs all that.
These dickheads always think they can translate the power they hold in civilized society to the wild post aoocalyptic free for all. Makes you wonder what will be going through their heads when some brutish psycho decides it's his turn and is about to stomp their heads into the tightly packed wasteland dirt.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The founder and sponsor of a far-right network of secretive, men-only, invitation-only fraternal lodges in the US is a former industrialist who has frequently speculated about his future as a warlord after the collapse of America, a Guardian investigation has found.
Federal and state tax and company filings show that the Society for American Civic Renewal (SACR) and its creator, Charles Haywood, also have financial ties with the far-right Claremont Institute.
Finally, the site advises that SACR membership “is organized primarily around local groups overseen by a national superstructure” and “is by invitation only”, offering an email address for those “interested in learning more”.
Haywood has become more active and prominent as a blogger and commentator on the far-right podcast circuit since selling his solely-owned Indianapolis-based shampoo manufacturing company, Mansfield-King, to a competitor for an undisclosed price in September 2020.
Laura K Field is a political theorist and a senior fellow at the Washington DC based thinktank the Niskanen Center who has written and spoken extensively about the “reactionary conservatism” of the Claremont Institute and those in its milieu.
On Haywood’s sponsorship of SACR and his Claremont ties, Field, the political theorist, said: “What’s creepy about the local-level stuff is that this country has a history of local autocracy … the way they’re acting undermines the rule of law.”
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He knows Waco didn’t end well, right?
Again with the Claremont Institute weirdos! If someone these days is saying something medieval or more in place in Saudi Arabia, they are probably connected to the Claremont Institute
These guys all shut the fuck up and got really quite for a few weeks back in March 2020.
When shit is actually hitting the fan they get so scared.
It seems to me that Shampoo Boy ~~want~~ wants to protect his millions with fascist ideology.
EDIT: grammar, sorry