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[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

I would feel a lot better about it if we treated cattle with existential respect while they gather for our consumption.

But capitalism does not do that to humans so hoping for mad cow respect in the US is about largely remembering about the fatal neurodegenerative disease of cattle.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Just go buy your meat directly from a farmer that only raises a few each year and that lets the cows roam free, it's not impossible to buy meat that's much more ethical, you just have to accept the price that comes with it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (12 children)

You can just stop eating meat though. Like what’s the point of continuing?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (20 children)

It tastes good and I don't eat it everyday and I try to eat quality meat as much as possible, give me a break.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

While this is subjective I’ve found much more variety of flavor after going vegan

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I'm not saying it has variety but that the taste of it is great

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Meat eating is tightly connected to manliness. Also ideas of freedom. People think doing away with meat would mean more austerity and an attack on their individuality. You could sit someone down, join the dots for them linking meat to environmental catastrophe that affects them and they will still laugh it off with a vapid joke like in the meme.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

I don’t even know what to say. I’m a man and never did I link eating a steak to my masculinity. I know it’s a thing but it just seems so primitive/basic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

*in your culture

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Man, my girlfriend wants to eat meat more often than I do, what does that mean? 🤔

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Meat eating is tightly connected to manliness.

That's an interesting proposition. You have a source for that, or a theory of your own? Please share.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

https://www.mdpi.com/2071-1050/14/3/1290

The idea isn't new or obscure but there is an academic source. Have you never heard of alt-right idiots complaining about soy boys? You know they are referring to men who have been emasculated because of aversion to meat and consumption of estrogen-like soy products?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I've heard about that, but I feel a majority of meat eaters are quite tolerant with veganism and don't see it a a threat to their masculinity. And I think I can say this threat isn't even relevant in the case of women meat eaters. About the study you linked: it doesn't really try to take an objective standpoint on the matter since its entire premise is the necessity to convince meat eaters to change their eating habits. Also is says itself (end of section 5) that the link between eating meat and masculinity wasn't specifically targeted by the study. The authors do mention though that the link between masculinity and meat eating can be attributed to perceptions created by industry marketing. But in this article (as well as in my own personal experience) this link seems at best anecdotal.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

it's ethical because they name them before slitting their throats 🥰

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No, but it is better since the animals get some quality life before we slit their throats.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yeah sometimes I murder people but it’s okay because I treat them pretty darn well before doing so.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I hope you eat them afterward. That would be so wasteful if you didn't.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

"have a little priest."

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago

So funny hahahahaha 🥴

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

That's not what I said, but whatever 🤷

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago

And that price is WORTH IT

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

you can just stop eating meat lol

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

And what does this existential respect look like?

Having a bit more joy in life and living a day longer in a cage which is one squaremeter larger until they get slaughtered?

Still no freedom and an unnaturally early end of life.