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Just go buy your meat directly from a farmer that only raises a few each year and that lets the cows roam free, it's not impossible to buy meat that's much more ethical, you just have to accept the price that comes with it.
You can just stop eating meat though. Like what’s the point of continuing?
It tastes good and I don't eat it everyday and I try to eat quality meat as much as possible, give me a break.
Taste
While this is subjective I’ve found much more variety of flavor after going vegan
I'm not saying it has variety but that the taste of it is great
Joy
Meat eating is tightly connected to manliness. Also ideas of freedom. People think doing away with meat would mean more austerity and an attack on their individuality. You could sit someone down, join the dots for them linking meat to environmental catastrophe that affects them and they will still laugh it off with a vapid joke like in the meme.
I don’t even know what to say. I’m a man and never did I link eating a steak to my masculinity. I know it’s a thing but it just seems so primitive/basic.
*in your culture
Man, my girlfriend wants to eat meat more often than I do, what does that mean? 🤔
That's an interesting proposition. You have a source for that, or a theory of your own? Please share.
https://www.mdpi.com/2071-1050/14/3/1290
The idea isn't new or obscure but there is an academic source. Have you never heard of alt-right idiots complaining about soy boys? You know they are referring to men who have been emasculated because of aversion to meat and consumption of estrogen-like soy products?
I've heard about that, but I feel a majority of meat eaters are quite tolerant with veganism and don't see it a a threat to their masculinity. And I think I can say this threat isn't even relevant in the case of women meat eaters. About the study you linked: it doesn't really try to take an objective standpoint on the matter since its entire premise is the necessity to convince meat eaters to change their eating habits. Also is says itself (end of section 5) that the link between eating meat and masculinity wasn't specifically targeted by the study. The authors do mention though that the link between masculinity and meat eating can be attributed to perceptions created by industry marketing. But in this article (as well as in my own personal experience) this link seems at best anecdotal.
Yeah but what about my cat? What about animals in the wild? How can we stop them from eating meat?
But what about you?
"You're supposed to pretend that you're something speshul and above those filthy, disgusting and immoral animals!" - vegans.
EDIT, replying to a comment (from another poster? the same poster?) elsewhere. I think that it was answering this comment, but the thread got deleted so...
Yes, it does. Unless you also expect other omnivorous species and the carnivorous ones to refrain to eat meat… do you? (You don't.)
And yes, this makes sense even if it hurts your "precious, oooh so preeecious!" feelings of superiority over other animals.
The false dichotomy is so fucking dumb that it makes me think that you're implictly admitting to not have any actual argument at hand.
If you want a serious reply then bring up some something not so infested by fallacies as the above, otherwise I'll just keep laughing at you, "sorry".
(Arguably also loaded language but I’ll cut you some slack on that, given that it has some entertainment value.)
Yeah, not eating animals means we think we’re “above” them because that makes sense. Also some other animal killer here in the comments flat out said “humans are above animals, this is fact” but evil vegans think they’re above animals!
How is it relevant to the question I'm asking?
Oh yeah I was totally suggesting animals should all go vegan too /s
It was an honest question, and you didn't answer it.
That was my answer. My snarky reply was intended to demonstrate how stupid it was for you to suggest that considering I never brought up that issue.
it's ethical because they name them before slitting their throats 🥰
No, but it is better since the animals get some quality life before we slit their throats.
Yeah sometimes I murder people but it’s okay because I treat them pretty darn well before doing so.
I hope you eat them afterward. That would be so wasteful if you didn't.
"have a little priest."
So funny hahahahaha 🥴
Says who? You? Weird how you, a human would would say that. Totally not biased at all.
That's not what I said, but whatever 🤷
And that price is WORTH IT