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Keep it simple (lemmy.ca)
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[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

So the spelling is irregular, so what. You’ll be bad at spelling for a while.

People mostly learn languages by reading.

having to memorize arbitrary gender for every noun in the language, learn complex verb conjugations, polite and impolite forms and make every verb and adjective agree with the nouns in gender and number

If you mess those up, people will still understand you. Saying "un chaise" instead of "une chaise" doesn't change the meaning and everyone knows what you're saying.

However, if you learn english words through text and then try to use them vocally, nobody will understand you. (looking at you "beard", who isn't pronounced at all like "bear" for some reason)

There is absolutely no correlation between spoken and written english, so in practice it's the same as having to learn two languages at once. Even adult native speakers still aren't sure how to pronounce simple 1 syllable words such as "route" or "vase", that's pretty telling how confusing that language is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

However, if you learn english words through text and then try to use them vocally, nobody will understand you. (looking at you “beard”, who isn’t pronounced at all like “bear” for some reason)

If someone pronounced beard like bear with a d on the end I'd understand them fine. Particularly since the rest of the sentence would probably be perfectly grammatical since the grammar is so simple.

People might understand "Le baguette sont fraîche", they might not. How do they know which words you got right and which you got wrong? They just know nothing agrees. Either way you will sound like a total moron. And you need to learn 3 different grammar rules to fix it, not just one pronunciation.

There is absolutely no correlation between spoken and written english

Come on, this is silly. I'm looking at your comment and almost every word has regular pronunciation. Any incorrect pronunciations would be easily understood. The specific examples you give are just regional differences.