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Long Cow is coming (lemmy.world)
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[-] [email protected] 119 points 2 weeks ago
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[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

I see you are quite moo'ved by this comment.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

How dairy you

[-] [email protected] 78 points 2 weeks ago

In fairness, my brain is reporting the exact same thing, so... it's a tie?

[-] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago

No, you just failed the Turing test

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[-] [email protected] 74 points 2 weeks ago

The danger isn't that it's smart, the danger is that it's stupid.

[-] [email protected] 41 points 2 weeks ago

There's an idea about "autistic ai" or something where you give ai an objective like "get a person from point a to b as fast as you can" and the ai goes so fast the g force kills the person but the ai thinks it was a success because you never told it to keep the person alive.

Though I suppose that's more human error. Something we take as a given but a machine will not.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

Here's the thing: what they keep calling 'AI' isn't really 'artificial intelligence' at all. It's just language processing on a large scale. This type of software has no actual cognitive capability; it can't 'think', it has no capacity to 'think' at all, but they've written it so it gives the appearance of 'thinking'; it's a trick, it's fake.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago

That's specifically LLMs. Image recognition like OP has nothing to do with language processing. Then there's generative AI which needs some kind of mapping between prompts and weights, but is also a completely different type of "AI"

That doesn't mean any of these "AI" products can think, but don't conflate LLMs and AI as being the same

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Your brain is also "just a Chinese room". It's just physic, chemistry and biology. There is no magic inside your brain. If a "Chinese room" is fast enough and can fool everyone into "believing" that it's fluent in chinese, than the room speaks chinese.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

This fails to engage with the thought experiment. The question isn't if "the room is fluent in Chinese." It is whether the machine learning model is actually comparable to the person in the room, executing program instructions to turn input into output without ever understanding anything about the input or output.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The same is true for your brain. Show me the neurons that are fluent in Chinese. Of course the LLM is just executing code. And if we have AGI it will also just be "executing code" but so does your brain. It's not exactly code (but maye AGI will be analog computers, so not exactly code either) but the laws of physics dictate what your brain does. The laws of physics don't understand Chinese, the atoms and molecules don't understand Chinese. "Understanding Chinese" is an emergent property.

Think about it that way: Assume every person you know (execpt you) is just some form of Chinese Room ... You first of all couldn't prove that and second it wouldn't matter at all.

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

How can you know the system has no cognitive capability ? We haven't solved the problem for our own minds, we have no definition of what consciousness is. For all we know we might be a multimodal LLM ourselves.

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

It's called the AI alignment problem, it's fascinating, if you want to dig deeper in the subject I highly recommend 'Robert miles AI safety' channel on YouTube

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Computers do what people tell them to do, not what people want.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

I read about a military AI that would put its objectives before anything else (like casualties) and do things like select nuclear strikes for all missions that involved destruction of targets. So they adjusted it to allow a human operator to veto strategies, in the simulation this was done via a communications tower. The AI apparently figured out that it could pick the strategy it wanted without veto if it just destroyed the communications tower before it made that selection.

Though take it with a grain of salt because the military denied the story was accurate. Which could mean it wasn't true or it could mean they didn't want the public to believe it was true. Though it does sound a bit too human-like for it to pass my sniff test (an AI wouldn't really care that its strategies get vetoed), but it's an amusing anecdote.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

The military: it didn't destroy the tower, it jammed the comms!

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The danger isn't that it's smart, the danger is that humans are stupid.

FTFY

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Or more precise: The danger is that people think it's smart

[-] [email protected] 66 points 2 weeks ago

Can anyone prove it's NOT an extra-long cow?

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Not based solely on the evidence presented, no.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 2 weeks ago

"we'll never have to worry about those 'cars', that model-t can barely hit 20mph! "

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

They will be flying and self driving by the year 2000.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You forgot a maxlength_cow clause after AI was done. Not exactly AI's fault.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

I mean where else do you think hot dogs come from?

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

So, does it have a long body or a long neck?

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe it's like a centipede. Centicow.

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

I was doing fine, seeing two cows, right up until I read your comment, and now I see it as some sort of weird giraffe like creature with short legs and a surprising ability to balance even with its neck stretched out that far.

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

MooooooooooooooooooOOOOh

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

Long cow is loooooooooong.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

Long cow is coming. Look busy.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

cyriak data was used to train it

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Damn that's a name I haven't heard in a minute. Good times.

Edit: it's still good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FavUpD_IjVY

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Actually AI wouldn't even recognize either of those as a cow let alone one long, unless it was specifically trained to look for cow's head or ass.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Long cow is long

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

It is because AI is dumb and putting way too much trust in it that it will kill us.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

AI is only as good as the trainer.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

octopod or hexapod ?

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yes all technologies that start imperfect stay shitty forever

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

anyone else think that square stone looks like a Minecraft villager's face?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

AI no dis troy. Troy is tha man

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